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Re: "Gilmore Girls" negotiations stall again

by Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 2, 2007 at 11:34 PM

On Thu, 03 May 2007 01:52:10 GMT, Brian Thorn <bthorn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:

>On 2 May 2007 14:47:26 -0700, Taylor <fetchwithruffruffman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>They're ****ing jack*****, those network executives at The CW to even
>>(((CONSIDER))) bringing back another season of a way beyond creatively
>>tired series. 
>
>Critics keep saying this, but I wonder if they're actually watching
>"Gilmore Girls" this season, or just looking at the declining ratings
>(courtesy of the collapsing CW) and saying "this show needs to be
>cancelled.". I think the show is much better this year than it was
>last season. Particularly, almost all of the episodes so far in 2007
>have been quite good. 
>
>>Did they learn NOTHING from carrying over old, tired
>>'7th Heaven'? Ultimately, NBC suffered keeping 'Friends' and 'Frasier'
>>on.
>
>Again, the last season of "Frasier" was the funniest it had been in,
>maybe four years. Just because a show has been around a while, doesn't
>necessarily mean it's run out of gas.

Exactly.  Not to mention that Friends was written off this exact same
way during s5 and s6 and then, duh, lasted four more years.  And NYPD
Blue was certainly collapsing during its 7th season as David Milch
literally burnt out on the show and more or less had to be kicked off
the show in the middle of the season -- the type of a trainwreck that
the Palladinos saw coming and which they narrowly averted by jumping
off the show at exactly the moment before they made their smokestacks
explode.  Heck, even with such a monumental creative change on NYPD
Blue, it still went on for four and a half more seasons.

IMO, the reality is that any show of sufficient quality to get on the
air and stay on the air for this many years (ie: anything not named
7th Heaven), the situation isn't about whether or not a show "runs out
of gas" or "goes out with dignity" blahblahblah.  It's more like, are
the vocal, persnickety part of the fanbase and certain trendsetting
doofus critics in sync with what the show is trying to accomplish?  No
show (except 7th Heaven) really deserves to go out on, basically, the
terms of a popularity contest rather than on terms of the show's
accomplishment and quality.  So IMO, I don't think that, barring
ratings -- and Gg hit the 4 million mark in viewers again this week,
which is *great* for a starter network in this day and age IMO -- a
show should continue as long as the creative team (including the
actors) keep wanting to tell the stories.

Okay, maybe when there's clearly a catastrophic creative failure along
the lines of Just Shoot Me's final three seasons or Drew Carey Show's
final two seasons or seasons 2 and 3 of Desperate Housewives, *then*
the show should be put out of its misery regardless of the ratings.
But Gg's never been anywhere near *that* point, especially not when
one factors out the feti****zation of the Lor-Luke relation****p in Gg
fandom and looks at it from the perspective of Gg's real premises,
which are:  1) what makes successful parent-child relation****ps work
and 2)  as a Coming-of-Age story, your rites of passage include how
you react to/cope with/fail to cope with personal failures/rejection.

  -- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.  
It never works.  I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work 
and what I could've done differently.  I'm analyzing all my shortcomings 
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan 
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent 
victim of my own stupid plans.  God, I need some coffee.
 




 5 Posts in Topic:
Re: "Gilmore Girls" negotiations stall again
Taylor <fetchwithruffr  2007-05-02 14:47:26 
Re: "Gilmore Girls" negotiations stall again
Brian Thorn <bthorn@[E  2007-05-03 01:52:10 
Re: "Gilmore Girls" negotiations stall again
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-05-02 23:34:10 
Re: "Gilmore Girls" negotiations stall again
"Sandy McDermin"  2007-05-03 11:40:54 
Re: "Gilmore Girls" negotiations stall again
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-05-03 11:35:48 

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