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Re: A Second Look: ATS S3D5

by "One Bit Shy" <OBS@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jan 29, 2008 at 04:12 PM

"mariposas rand mair fheal" <mair_fheal@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
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>> > What Cordy does this episode is the main reason I think Jasmine must
>> > already
>> > be in her rather than waiting on her ascension.
>> >
>>
>> Alternately, Skip demonized her with a little bit of himself and the
>> ****ning thing is simply what he warned her about: "...the effects of
>> the transition will be numerous and unpredictable." (3.11 Birthday)
>
> skip has to be lying at some point
>
> either he was lying during birthday and earlier already working for 
> jasmine
> or he was lying later about already working for jasmine
>
> theres no evidence presented except the testimony of skip and jasmine
> and they are not presented as trustworthy
>
>
> we have other examples of humans being joined to the essence of a demon
> to give them strength to fight evil
> so theres no reason not to think cordelia got the same deal
> with a different kind of demon essence
>
> also in youre welcome
>    - death is such a primitive concept
>      i prefer to think of them as battling evil
>      on a higher dimension
> it feels more likely cordelia is off to fight elsewhere
> rather dying and ceasing to exist
>
>
> so i like to think cordelia really was tapped by the powers that be 
> okey-dokey
> she really was infused with greater power to be greater instrument of
good
> and she really was transcending to a higher level
>
> thats when jasmine saw her opening and slipped in
> and hijacked the scheme for her own benefit
>
> thats my story
> and im sticking to it

And a nice story it is.  I rather enjoy the various theories and don't
have 
a preference per se.  I just want to figure out something that reasonably 
hangs together across both seasons.  My entryway is trying to make sense
out 
of the behavior of the PTB, who seem to disappear from the scene
altogether 
except for Darla's ghostly appearance in the middle of S4.  I assume
that's 
because they're very tenuous connection to the lower plane was pretty much

limited to Cordy.  But, if so, why did they make her ascend before the 
vision capability was transferred?

One theory might be that's why Groo was sent to Cordy a second time, and 
when that didn't work out they just ran out of time.  That doesn't work
very 
well for me.  I mean they'd already failed once with Groo.  Surely they 
could have found another candidate.  I struggle to buy the running out of 
time part too.  Still, that idea does fit the facts at hand.

The approach that seems to suit my sensibilities better, though, is the 
notion that Jasmine hijacked Cordelia in Birthday, thereby cutting off the

PTB connection prematurely.  There's some room for variations there too, 
such as Birthday really being a PTB construct to demonize Cordelia, but a 
bought off Skip inserted Jasmine instead.  Or maybe even in addition to,
so 
that PTB visions and Jasmine possession ran in parallel for a while.  That

gets a little complicated though.

This approach does add the questions of why Jasmine was already on Earth
and 
why Cordelia still needed to ascend.  (There's always something.)  I think

their are possible answers, but it pushes the speculation yet another
level 
below what we can see, so I'll pass for now.

Aside from explaining the PTB, what I appreciate about this approach is
how 
it seems to fit the AtS way of misleading.  Cordelia at the peak of her
pure 
and good phase (even getting all white and glowy a year before Willow
does), 
actually being in the service of possessing evil.  The story's going there

anyway.  It seems best to me to have it there from the start.  Plus, it 
sustains the perpetual Buffyverse theme of warring good and evil within.

OBS
 




 7 Posts in Topic:
Re: A Second Look: ATS S3D5
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-01-27 14:53:14 
Re: A Second Look: ATS S3D5
mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-01-29 03:22:53 
Re: A Second Look: ATS S3D5
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-01-29 16:12:09 
Re: A Second Look: ATS S3D5
mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-01-29 14:08:59 
Re: A Second Look: ATS S3D5
Michael Ikeda <mmikeda  2008-01-29 17:30:03 
Re: A Second Look: ATS S3D5
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-01-29 22:20:43 
Re: A Second Look: ATS S3D5
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-01-30 01:25:13 

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