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>> "One Bit Shy" <OBS@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER
>>>> Season Six, Episode 15: "Hell's Bells"
>>>
>>>
>>> While the Xander/Anya break-up is at the center of our
>>> disagreement about this episode, I don't sense that you
>>> appreciate the trappings of the episode as much as I do
>>> either. We're probably closest on this, though your few
>>> pleasant moments strike me as the dominating quality of the
>>> episode until the tragedy takes over. There's a lot of it.
>>> Personal moments with Buffy/Xander, Buffy/Spike, Willow/Xander
>>> and Willow/Tara.
>>
>> BUFFY: but if you're wildly curious, yeah, it hurts.
>> SPIKE: (softly) I'm sorry. (remembers himself) Or, Good!
>>
>> I like the way that Spike automatically apologizes, before
>> remembering that a vampire isn't SUPPOSED to care about hurting
>> people...
Just a quick note on "Normal Again".
It occurred to be that the title doesn't just refer to Buffy being
a (more or less) "normal girl" in the "alternate-reality". It also
refers to this episode being the last step in her recovery. She
isn't working her way out of depression, she's "normal again".
Normal, at least, for Buffy.
("As You Were" has some of the same connotation. And Buffy is
almost recovered by the end of that episode.)
>>
>>>
>>>> Season Six, Episode 17: "Entropy"
>>>
>>
>>> I'll limit observations this time to how much Anya's vengeance
>>> urge blinds her. So hurt that she doesn't see the love poured
>>> on her. So angry and determined for payback that she can't
>>> see how much pain Xander already is in.
>>
>> And she also misses a wish that she could actually grant...
>>
>> Xander: I wish we could just go back to the way things were
>> before.
>>
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>
> 6-18 "Seeing Red"
>
> Just wanted to add to something OBS mentioned about this
> episode:
>
> (begin quote)
>
> I mean the episode could have filmed the rape scene less awfully
> or even chosen a different way altogether to bring Spike's
> crisis to a head, but I'm skeptical that either choice would
> impact as strongly. We're justifying a soul-quest here, which
> in Buffyverse terms is about as monumental as it gets.
>
> (end quote)
>
> Agreed. What Spike does has to be enough to shock SPIKE. And
> there aren't that many other things that will do that.
>
> There's a line in "The Gift" where Spike tells Buffy that he's a
> monster but she treats him like a man. What "Seeing Red" does
> is hammer home to Spike that he has to decide which he wants to
> be.
>
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Michael Ikeda mmikeda@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Telling a statistician not to use sampling is like telling an
astronomer they can't say there is a moon and stars"
Lynne Billard, past president American Statistical Association
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