On Mar 3, 12:45 am, William George Ferguson <wmgfr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 16:20:03 -0800 (PST), Arbitrar Of Quality
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> >Okay, I know ME isn't big with such things, but I spent a little time
> >fruitlessly trying to work out the chronology involved in this year.
> >Basically, the issue is that "Deep Down" is explicitly established to
> >take place about three months after "Tomorrow." So, roughly the same
> >time as "Lessons." Now, S7 of BTVS may not last all the way until May
> >(the apocalypse comes early this year...), but it clearly takes place
> >over a number of months. I can't imagine it not being spring semester
> >by the time of "Lies My Parents Tell Me." In the meantime, ATS has a
> >lot of "one episode leading right into the next one" stuff; almost
> >every show of S4 begins either at the moment the previous one ended or
> >the next day. Most of the story takes place over a few weeks. Yet
> >the same amount of time theoretically has to have elapsed when the
> >shows intersect again at LMPTM/"Orpheus."
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> >So, where's the missing half-year in the ATS continuity? My original
> >fan-wanky plan was to presume a lot of not-much-happening time during
> >the first few episodes of the year, between the end of "Deep Down" and
> >the beginning of THAW (although it certainly doesn't feel like months
> >are elapsing). The problem is that Lorne has already been a Vegas
> >star for some time in "Deep Down" - presumably since early in the
> >summer because that's the explanation for why he isn't in contact with
> >the L.A. gang. In "The House Always Wins," a sign tells us that Lorne
> >has been performing at the Tropicana for 17 weeks. By the logic used
> >above, it's probably been a little bit more than a month since DD,
> >which "feels" right from the play of the episodes. (That's not set in
> >stone, though. Maybe his act was booked at a different hotel before
> >the current run at the Tropicana?) THAW, of course, leads directly
> >into "Slouching," and that kicks off the arc that never really stops.
> >There may be a little bit of down time between "Slouching" and
> >"Supersymmetry," but certainly not months. Ipso facto, Joss and
> >company suck at math and keeping track of fictional time.
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> As you know Bob, we have certainly played this game on the newsgroup
> before. The first thing to do is to nail down the 'timestamps' we do
know.
Thanks for the ones from BTVS; I knew we were well past winter break
by the end of the year, but couldn't remember where the specific
references came in.
> Supersymmetry and Spin the Bottle are not heel and toe, and, in fact,
the
> point is made that the frission between Fred and Gunn has had time to
> simmer.
Not true. STB proceeds directly from the closing scene of
"Supersymmetry," a scene which begins with Fred and Gunn and Angel
returning to the hotel immediately after the death of the professor.
Lorne later refers to the Fred/Gunn/Wesley intrigue as having happened
"a few hours ago."
> Time also p***** between Spin and Apoc.
Not much. Does this sound like any significant time (i.e. more than a
day or two) has passed?
LORNE: I said why. Now, let's meet in the middle with a "why no?"
ANGEL: It's too soon. (walks to front desk)
LORNE: But she got her memory back. Aren't you a weensy curious if
Cordy remembers anything about her little stint as a Miss Higher
Power? Oh, say, maybe something about the thing-a-ma-bad that Wolfram
& Hart sucked outta my noggin?
ANGEL: We need to give her time to adjust before we start coming at
her with a million questions.
LORNE: How 'bout one? One's good.
ANGEL: In a couple of days, when she's more herself.
> And then we're into 9 episode run where, for all practical purposes, no
> time p***** between episodes, only during episodes.
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> Tracking the internal passage of time through the Beast/Angelus run, the
> whole thing takes place between 15 to 20 days. Figuring backwards from
> LMPTM, that means that entire run takes place between TKIM and LMPTM,
maybe
> even between Storyteller and LMPTM.
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> That means Deeo Down to Apocalypse Nowish takes place from September to
> February.
I maintain that the only place to throw missing time is during the DD-
THAW period. And that certainly doesn't feel like Sept. through Feb.
kind of time, although there's nothing directly contradicting it if we
fanwank the Tropicana sign. (Or maybe January, since "Sypersymmetry"
takes place some time after "Slouching," but I really don't see it
being more than a couple weeks, at most. Cordelia living with Connor
is still a fairly recent development.)
Now, since the remaining BTVS episodes are pretty much "heel to toe"
starting from LMPTM, does that leave enough time for Jasmine's birth
and death over the L.A. side?
-AOQ
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