On Mar 20, 5:25 pm, "One Bit Shy" <O...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> "Michael Ikeda" <mmik...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>
> > I tend to see Jasmine as not taking full control until "Long Day's
> > Journey," with "Spin the Bottle" and "Apocalypse, Nowish" as likely
> > key points in the process. I do think it's reasonable to see "Spin
> > the Bottle" as being a point when Jasmine starts to awaken a bit,
> > but she can't do more than work on Cordy's subconscious until her
> > "conception" at the end of "Apocalypse, Nowish." Whereupon she
> > starts to take conscious control, and by the time "Long Day's
> > Journey" rolls around she's in basically full control.
>
> That's not a bad approach since it can be used to explain the erratic
> personality during that intermediate period. I still tend towards Spin
the
> Bottle as a more thorough take-over with the erratic being erratic story
> telling from writers struggling to make up their mind. A couple
reasons.
> Mainly because plausibility seems to me to demand pretty active control
by
> Jasmine - especially in Apocalypse, Nowish. The conception seems too
> critical to rely on subconscious prodding. I also struggle accounting
for
> real Cordelia if she isn't immediately suppressed. Wouldn't she be
> complaining about memory gaps or otherwise acting strangely? It's hard
to
> imagine her not noticing that something's slowly taking her over.
Yes. Although she can be kinda dense sometimes...
STB is good enough for me too for several reasons, some of which are
the same as you've hinted at. It simplifies the story, reinforces the
characters' belief that it was the turning point... and there's the
fact that her ****ing Connor doesn't feel convincing or natural to me,
so I'd prefer to believe that it has an explanation.
-AOQ


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