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Re: A Second Look: ATS S4D1

by "One Bit Shy" <OBS@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 25, 2008 at 07:32 PM

"William George Ferguson" <wmgfrgsn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
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> On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 01:39:53 -0400, "One Bit Shy" <OBS@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> wrote:
>
>><chrisg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>news:13uab4ak6cicmf0@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> In alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer Arbitrar Of Quality <tsmtsm@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>> Season Four, Episode 4: "Slouching Toward Bethlehem"
>
> You know, as I think about it, I don't recall anyone on the newsgroup
ever
> bringing up the foreshadowing (in retrospect) of this title (at the time

> of
> the original airing, I just accepted that no writer in the later half of
> the 20th and start of the 21st century has ever passed up an op****tunity

> to
> use a line from that Yeats poem as a title (I think every single line
has
> been used by some writer or other as a title)).  It also pretty directly
> addresses the 'when did Jasmine take over' question.  I think, at the 
> time,
> that we just accepted that it must refer to the Beast, once Apocalypse
> Nowish aired, but the imagery, in 20-20 hindsight is Anti-Christ
imagery,
> and that's Jasmine.
>
> Of course, it may just be so obvious as to not need anyone bringing it
up.

"And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?"

Foretelling Jasmine's birth for sure.  And probably marking the conception

as a point in time of im****tance.  It would be elegant if Jasmine didn't 
arrive until then, but that's not how it gets explained later.

Angel:  Being inside a human makes it vulnerable, doesn't it? That's why
it 
had to stay hidden. Why it needed to create something stronger to pour 
itself into.
Gunn:  Wait. So the big nasty inside of Cordy is going to give birth... to

itself?
Skip:  Circle of life. It's a beautiful thing.

Jasmine's already in Cordelia waiting for the birth of a more perfect 
container.  Besides, just being in Cordy and/or being conceived doesn't 
necessarily mean she's in control.  I'm afraid we're still stuck with the 
question of when Jasmine takes charge.  And I still lean towards the
memory 
restoration spell.

It's still a nice use of the line though.

OBS
 




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A Second Look: ATS S4D1
Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-03-02 16:20:03 
Re: A Second Look: ATS S4D1
William George Ferguson &  2008-03-02 23:45:02 
Re: A Second Look: ATS S4D1
Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-03-03 17:33:04 
Re: A Second Look: ATS S4D1
angmc43@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-09 14:49:41 
Re: A Second Look: ATS S4D1
mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-03-09 15:11:45 
Re: A Second Look: ATS S4D1
Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-03-09 21:27:22 
Re: A Second Look: ATS S4D1
mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-03-09 21:38:05 
Re: A Second Look: ATS S4D1
"Mason Barge" &  2008-03-11 14:48:56 
Re: A Second Look: ATS S4D1
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-03-11 17:04:19 
Re: A Second Look: ATS S4D1
Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-03-12 05:17:02 
Re: A Second Look: ATS S4D1
Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-03-12 06:08:34 
Re: A Second Look: ATS S4D1
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-03-14 00:02:07 
Re: A Second Look: ATS S4D1
Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-03-14 19:40:57 
Re: A Second Look: ATS S4D1
"Apteryx" <a  2008-03-17 23:18:14 
Re: A Second Look: ATS S4D1
chrisg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-22 15:58:02 
Re: A Second Look: ATS S4D1
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-03-25 01:39:53 
Re: A Second Look: ATS S4D1
William George Ferguson &  2008-03-25 09:33:54 
Re: A Second Look: ATS S4D1
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-03-25 19:32:23 
Re: A Second Look: ATS S4D1
espie@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-26 10:00:15 
Re: A Second Look: ATS S4D1
Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-03-22 17:05:43 

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