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Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D3

by "One Bit Shy" <OBS@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 28, 2008 at 11:54 PM

"Arbitrar Of Quality" <tsmtsm@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Mar 27, 12:40 am, "One Bit Shy" <O...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Arbitrar Of Quality" <tsm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in 
>
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>> > Random characters like
>> > Joyce make cameos for no apparent reason, or as it turns out in this
>> > example, none that ever becomes apparent.
>>
>> Well she does seem to be trying to get Buffy to give up, what with her 
>> talk
>> about evil being everywhere.  Still, Joyce's appearances may be the
most
>> obscure ghostly sightings of the season.
>
> Doesn't she tell Buffy to go to sleep at one point and wake up at
> another?

Yes.  Within a few seconds of each other.


> Given how the show only barely bothered to (sorta) follow up
> on Joyce's words in CWDP, I'm sure everyone will forgive me if I'm
> unimpressed with the vagueness for its own sake.

Domine.  Domine.  Your'e forgiven.


>> Kennedy:  That's it? That's the plan? I don't see how one person, even
a
>> slayer, could protect us.
>>
>> Out of the mouths of babes.  I think that pretty much states the issue 
>> that
>> the season will turn on.  Let me use this op****tunity to make what may
be 
>> my
>> only defense of Kennedy this season.  Her romance with Willow is the 
>> obvious
>> big deal with her.  But as a Potential, her function is to be the one 
>> most
>> ready and eager for personal empowerment.
> [snip]
>> Highlighting this is a useful function for Kennedy.  She may be
annoying 
>> as
>> hell, but at least part of that has a righteous basis as she acts as
>> agitator and leader for the empowerment cause.  One of the curious
things
>> about her is that Buffy doesn't really come down on her, even as she 
>> speaks
>> in defiance of Buffy.  Maybe Buffy sees a little of herself in Kennedy
- 
>> I'm
>> not sure.  I think it's more that Kennedy actually takes to heart what 
>> Buffy
>> tries to instill in the Potentials, and Buffy sees that.  Her impetuous
>> inexperience is a lot easier to forgive than betrayal by Giles or
>> undermining by Xander.
>
> I'll give you Giles, but Xander's generally a voice of reason, if not
> assertiveness, during S7.

Most of the time, yeah.  I was thinking of the Get It Done argument when 
Buffy pretty much took Kennedy's sass in stride - even trying to make a 
point out of it - but couldn't get past Xander's Xander's follow-up
retorts. 
It pretty much undermined the point she was trying to make.  Though she
went 
and found another way to get the message across.


> Nothing else to add, except that I'm
> curious what I'd think of Kennedy, Ringleader Of The Potentials if
> that were her primary function to the story and Willow hooked up with
> someone else.  Then, at least, her being annoying would be part of the
> point.

I would have liked that just to bring more body to the Potential's story.


>> > Season Seven, Episode 11: "Showtime"
>> > Has there ever been more of an Act Four episode?
>>
>> I don't understand the question.
>
> Just reflecting the fact that the whole thing is built around the
> fourth act (Thunderdome).  Nearly everything else is specifically
> designed to set it up, and the episode succeeds or fails along with
> its last ten minutes.

Maybe that explains why I'm so indifferent to most of the episode.


>> > It's also
>> > weird remembering when Kennedy of the winged house didn't stand out
so
>> > much, or annoy me at all.  Even the overdone flirting doesn't really
>> > bother me pre-TKIM.
>>
>> Not much of an actor though.
>
> Well, that's never kept certain other actors who shall remain nameless
> become widely beloved by this fanbase.

Yeah, but they learned how to be pretty good hams.

OBS
 




 9 Posts in Topic:
A Second Look: BTVS S7D3
Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-03-24 18:52:51 
Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D3
Rowan Hawthorn <rowan_  2008-03-24 23:11:58 
Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D3
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-03-27 01:40:31 
Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D3
Michael Ikeda <mmikeda  2008-03-27 17:16:29 
Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D3
Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-03-28 19:55:58 
Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D3
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-03-28 23:54:08 
Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D3
Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-03-31 19:13:20 
Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D3
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-04-01 17:06:48 
Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D3
Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-02 06:45:27 

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