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Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D2

by "LAB Enterprises" <news@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 7, 2008 at 11:13 AM

I agree. Dawn is actually a lot stronger here than in most episodes and =
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always thought Joyce was the real Joyce and the evil was an agent of the =

First trying to block her from appearing to Dawn. Will probably never =
know=20
for sure, but that was always my take on it.

As to her comment about Buffy not being there for Dawn, she really =
wasn't.=20
Dawn was continuously proving that season that she could handle herself=20
quite a bit, so when it came down to Buffy stopping the First, she left =
Dawn=20
on her own to take care of herself, therefore, she didn't choose =
protecting=20
Dawn over saving the world. I thought Joyce's comment as a warning to =
Dawn=20
to take care of herself - be strong for herself without relying on =
Buffy.

Lori


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"Arbitrar Of Quality" <tsmtsm@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message=20
news:e413b701-6846-4c3a-96ab-78e9b278c109@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Apr 6, 9:43 pm, malspera...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>
>> I disliked the haunted house for two reasons. Dawn is at her most
>> childishly screechy and helpless; that song has been sung once too
>> often. And the gore and monsters and broken glass are mere
>> distractions from what should have been truly interesting and
>> terrifying: the return of Joyce as an instrument of evil. Alas, with
>> all the blood dripping on walls and whatnot, there isn't much doubt
>> that this is Evil!Joyce. Her attempts to drive a wedge of distrust
>> between Dawn and Buffy are lame, and never amount to much. (Would =
that
>> they had: it might have provided more plausible motivation for Dawn
>> later agreeing to evict Buffy from the house.)
>
> Well, I had a different take on both counts.  I'm not a huge fan of
> Dawn screaming so continuously (although Trachtenberg is indeed a good
> screamer), but she's not at her most helpless here.  She's the one
> walking over broken class and throwing hurried spells around.  The
> other disagreement is about Joyce; I don't think it's at all clear
> that Joyce is the First, although we're meant to consider it as a
> possibility without being certain (much like the characters do in
> "Sleeper").  I think there's a large amount of doubt, to this day.
> Within the context of CWDP, I think Joyce's contribution is meant to
> be minimal and, above all, mysterious, rather than terrifying.  No, it
> never amounts to much, but I don't think this episode can be blamed
> for any pof that.
>
> -AOQ=20
 




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A Second Look: BTVS S7D2
Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-03-09 21:40:08 
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Don Sample <dsample@[E  2008-03-10 01:32:10 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-03-09 22:48:19 
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William George Ferguson &  2008-03-10 09:35:16 
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"Wouter Valentijn&qu  2008-03-11 16:51:37 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-03-10 17:36:09 
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Michael Ikeda <mmikeda  2008-03-11 17:21:53 
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"John Briggs" &  2008-03-11 23:46:36 
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Jillun <jillun@[EMAIL   2008-03-12 03:03:03 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-03-12 11:54:34 
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"One Bit Shy" &  2008-03-13 18:44:57 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-03-14 20:06:47 
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"One Bit Shy" &  2008-03-15 00:14:31 
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vague disclaimer <l64o  2008-03-23 23:32:57 
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"Apteryx" <a  2008-04-04 22:32:42 
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malsperanza@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-06 19:43:27 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-04-07 01:17:14 
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"One Bit Shy" &  2008-04-07 15:10:33 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-06 21:21:40 
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"LAB Enterprises&quo  2008-04-07 11:13:32 
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William George Ferguson &  2008-04-07 12:35:24 
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"One Bit Shy" &  2008-04-07 15:17:42 
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malsperanza@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-07 11:00:20 
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malsperanza@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-07 14:05:19 
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malsperanza@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-07 14:21:28 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-08 17:36:39 
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"vlad.popescu.ro@[EM  2008-04-17 06:40:40 

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