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Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D2

by "One Bit Shy" <OBS@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 7, 2008 at 03:10 PM

"mariposas rand mair fheal" <mair_fheal@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:mair_fheal-BE294C.01171407042008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> The First as an archvillain is still full of, er, potential. It has
>> the chance to be truly worse and more dangerous than Glory, or any of
>> the other apocalyptic monsters because it comes from within the main
>> characters themselves and is quite literally generated by them. Alas,
>> as the season progressed, this idea proved too hard to sustain, and
>> The First became a Big Baddy in the Basement, with the usual army of
>> orcs and a taste for cross-dressing.
>
> the idea is the only real power the devil has
> is the power you give it
>
> Jareth: *Everything*! Everything that you wanted I have done. You asked 
> that the
> child be taken. I took him. You cowered before me, I was frightening. I 
> have
> reordered time. I have turned the world upside down, and I have done it 
> all for
> *you*! I am exhausted from living up to your expectations of me. Isn't 
> that
> generous?
>
> buffy cant destroy it
> but once she rejects it and tells it get out of her face
> it has no power over her
>
> death evil fear etc are always going to be here
> but whether they control you or not is your coice

The First's power also manifests as an army of surrogates threatening to 
force their will upon Buffy and her army.  And with Caleb, we also see the

First bestowing power upon somebody.  (The first ubervamp probably got the

same kind of power boost too.)

Your theory is good - and probably accurate to a point.  But I don't think

the concept of the First is that singular.

If you look at the greater power metaphor, and it's connection to feminist

theory, then yes, granting the power to others is part of it.  I think
self 
empowerment is definitely part of the story.  But another part of the
story 
is forced enslavement - doling out power to the selected few according to 
slavemaster's choice.  Or, put another way, wanting the power and refusing

to grant it to others is necessary, but insufficient in itself.  You also 
need access to the tools of power, which can be forcibly held from you and

used against you.

The First worked actively to get Buffy and others to hand their power over

to it.  But it also acted coercively.  And indirectly to withhold power. 
You'll note that it took a while for the First to approach Buffy directly.

It's primary approach appears to be through others in order to separate 
Buffy from the people around her - her true source of power.  (Or perhaps 
more properly, "their" true source of power.  They overcome as a group.)

Another more oblique aspect is the influence of cultural norms.  (I think 
it's harder to see because it's harder to represent through the First.) 
Especially in how it brings pressure through weight of numbers.  In the 
Sunnydale sense of evil brought to life so that it can be slayed, that
would 
probably be represented by the ubervamp army, whose size alone is so 
intimidating.  They're the lynch mob that won't tolerate acts of 
independence.  The greater impact, however, is within her own circle of 
friends, who resist personal empowerment, and who turn against her in 
various ways.

Returning to your notion that "the only real power the devil has is the 
power you give it," which I don't mean to diminish, that regains
prominence 
when combined with the leader****p theme of the season.  A leader's true 
power is drawn from the consent of his/her followers.  Buffy can't succeed

without her army.  The First is nothing without its mob.  With them they
can 
engage in the coercive exercise of ****d power.

That returns us to "Big Baddy in the Basement."  I always liked Caleb, 
leading up to the great battle of armies.  I think Malsperanza is right
that 
the late season move diminishes somewhat the sense of battle within each 
character, replacing it with the more traditional external foe.  But I 
approve of that for a couple of reasons.  First is that this is conclusion

of the series, and I think it's im****tant that it remain true to its core 
concept of internal battles manifested as physical monsters that can be 
slain.  Secondly, as explained a few ways above, there's an im****tant 
external component to this struggle for empowerment.  Those external
forces 
will indeed seek to repress through the brutal exercise of physical force.

I believe the story necessarily eventually devolves into a physical clash
of 
cultures where the Slayer army wins its independence from the oppression
of 
the evil overlord and its mob.  (To the victor goes the framing.)  Season
7 
ultimately is less about an introspective kind of liberation than it is 
about revolutionary triumph.

OBS
 




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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-03-09 21:40:08 
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Don Sample <dsample@[E  2008-03-10 01:32:10 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-03-09 22:48:19 
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William George Ferguson &  2008-03-10 09:35:16 
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"Wouter Valentijn&qu  2008-03-11 16:51:37 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-03-10 17:36:09 
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Michael Ikeda <mmikeda  2008-03-11 17:21:53 
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"John Briggs" &  2008-03-11 23:46:36 
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Jillun <jillun@[EMAIL   2008-03-12 03:03:03 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-03-12 11:54:34 
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"One Bit Shy" &  2008-03-13 18:44:57 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-03-14 20:06:47 
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"One Bit Shy" &  2008-03-15 00:14:31 
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vague disclaimer <l64o  2008-03-23 23:32:57 
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"Apteryx" <a  2008-04-04 22:32:42 
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malsperanza@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-06 19:43:27 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-04-07 01:17:14 
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"One Bit Shy" &  2008-04-07 15:10:33 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-06 21:21:40 
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"LAB Enterprises&quo  2008-04-07 11:13:32 
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William George Ferguson &  2008-04-07 12:35:24 
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"One Bit Shy" &  2008-04-07 15:17:42 
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malsperanza@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-07 11:00:20 
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malsperanza@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-07 14:05:19 
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malsperanza@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-04-07 14:21:28 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-08 17:36:39 
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"vlad.popescu.ro@[EM  2008-04-17 06:40:40 

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