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Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D4

by Arbitrar Of Quality <tsmtsm@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 10, 2008 at 06:34 PM

On Apr 10, 5:43 pm, Michael Ikeda <mmik...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Arbitrar Of Quality <tsm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
innews:72c4d699-cc04-4ffc-bd6f-6f8e3083f1bd@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> com:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 9, 6:38 pm, Michael Ikeda <mmik...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> Arbitrar Of Quality <tsm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
> >> innews:a1bad5f4-8477-4684-9270-0262824a8fd4@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> oups. com:
>
> >> > Scythe Matters summed it up most accurately
> >> > with his assessment of how the show's bait-and-switch
> >> > backfires.
> >> >  To paraphrase, introducing Warren means introducing all the
> >> > associations that come with him, which the show doesn't
> >> > actually address (since that's not what TKIM is about),
> >> > leaving them hovering unsatisfyingly and drowning out
> >> > anything TKIM might have to say about Willow/Tara/Kennedy.
>
> >> I didn't see there as being any "bait-and-switch".  It was just
> >> picking one of several logical ways for the story to go.
>
> > It's the very definition of a bait and switch.  We're supposed
> > to think that Willow is forced to be seen as a murderer because
> > she's, well, a murderer.  The big twist at the end is that she's
> > seeing herself as a killer for a very different reason.  Hinting
> > at one story and then telling another is *the way the episode's
> > constructed*.  The technique itself isn't inherently bad.  The
> > reason that it doesn't work in this particular case is because,
> > well...  "It's like bringing Angel back to make some sort of
> > unrelated point about Buffy's poor counseling skills; wrong
> > character, wrong associations, wrong choice. There's too much
> > else that Angel's presence implies. And the same is true here,
> > for Warren. "  - SM
>
> Except that it basically HAS to be Warren for the plotline they
> chose.  Because Warren was the one who actually killed Tara.

Add "wrong plotline" to the list, then.

-AOQ




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A Second Look: BTVS S7D4
Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-09 06:34:03 
Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D4
mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-04-09 08:32:57 
Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D4
Michael Ikeda <mmikeda  2008-04-09 18:38:03 
Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D4
Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-09 21:39:20 
Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D4
Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-09 21:49:38 
Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D4
Michael Ikeda <mmikeda  2008-04-10 17:43:23 
Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D4
Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-10 18:34:00 
Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D4
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-04-11 04:05:05 
Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D4
Don Sample <dsample@[E  2008-04-11 04:10:57 
Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D4
mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-04-11 03:00:39 
Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D4
Don Sample <dsample@[E  2008-04-11 16:42:37 
Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D4
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-04-12 01:08:31 
Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D4
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-04-12 23:39:29 
Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D4
Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-13 18:50:06 
Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D4
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-04-13 23:35:12 
Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D4
Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-13 21:33:21 
Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D4
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-04-14 01:55:15 
Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D4
Rowan Hawthorn <rowan_  2008-04-14 07:20:23 
Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D4
Michael Ikeda <mmikeda  2008-04-14 18:55:58 
Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D4
Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-14 16:41:37 
Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D4
vague disclaimer <l64o  2008-04-19 16:48:05 

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