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Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D5

by Michael Ikeda <mmikeda@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 27, 2008 at 04:05 PM

> On Apr 25, 9:57 pm, Arbitrar Of Quality <tsm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote: 

> 
>> Season Seven, Episode 17: "Lies My Parents Told Me"
>> Writers: David Fury and Drew Goddard
>> Director: David Fury
>>
>> I try to be open to whatever story the writers want to tell, as
>> long as it’s done well.  This isn’t one of those times. 
>> Objectivity be damned.  I *hate* the story being told, the
>> culmination of the wholesale destruction of Giles’s character
>> that’s been going on for the past two seasons, and no
>> justification could ever make me enjoy watching it.

We're in YMMV territory now.  I don't see what happens as any sort 
of "destruction" of Giles' character.  Giles is being Giles, just 
Giles in a different situation.

Or to look at it another way:

(begin quote)

GILES: She's a hero, you see. (Giles puts his glasses on) She's not 
like us.
BEN: Us?

Giles suddenly reaches down and puts his hand over Ben's nose and 
mouth, holding them shut. Ben struggles weakly as Giles keeps him 
still. Giles keeps his calm expression throughout.

(end quote)

That's what Giles is doing now, at least in his viewpoint.  Helping 
to get rid of a threat that Buffy won't--can't deal with.

(I also don't see the "stacking the deck" that you refer to 
elsewhere.  I agree with Buffy more that Giles or Wood, but 
everyone involved is partly right and partly wrong and I thought 
that the episode clearly showed that.)

-- 
Michael Ikeda    mmikeda@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Telling a statistician not to use sampling is like telling an
astronomer they can't say there is a moon and stars"
Lynne Billard, past president American Statistical Association
 




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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-25 18:57:52 
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peachy ashie passion <  2008-04-26 18:02:56 
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Malsperanza <malsperan  2008-04-27 12:50:24 
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Michael Ikeda <mmikeda  2008-04-27 16:05:37 
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vague disclaimer <l64o  2008-04-27 22:38:17 
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Michael Ikeda <mmikeda  2008-04-28 16:55:01 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-04-28 22:03:02 
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Don Sample <dsample@[E  2008-04-29 07:08:30 
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vague disclaimer <l64o  2008-04-27 22:23:47 
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"One Bit Shy" &  2008-04-28 00:30:25 
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Michael Ikeda <mmikeda  2008-04-28 17:20:41 
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vague disclaimer <l64o  2008-04-30 08:56:28 
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"One Bit Shy" &  2008-04-30 20:05:18 
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vague disclaimer <l64o  2008-04-30 09:11:59 
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"One Bit Shy" &  2008-04-30 20:27:58 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-28 16:56:48 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-04-28 21:56:19 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-28 17:04:10 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-04-28 21:18:43 
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vague disclaimer <l64o  2008-04-30 08:52:06 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-28 17:58:43 
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"One Bit Shy" &  2008-04-29 01:16:01 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-28 18:04:55 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-04-28 21:09:01 
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"Apteryx" <a  2008-04-29 13:52:11 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-30 17:33:47 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-04-30 17:52:03 
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William George Ferguson &  2008-05-01 15:21:08 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-05-01 17:48:29 
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"One Bit Shy" &  2008-05-01 23:11:04 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-05-01 21:26:36 
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vague disclaimer <l64o  2008-05-06 22:13:37 
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Michael Ikeda <mmikeda  2008-05-06 17:44:23 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-05-06 20:33:18 
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"One Bit Shy" &  2008-05-07 02:40:37 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-05-07 01:51:42 
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"One Bit Shy" &  2008-05-08 23:05:31 
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"One Bit Shy" &  2008-05-07 02:37:52 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-30 17:53:41 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-04-30 18:21:07 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-30 17:58:55 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-30 18:05:02 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-30 18:32:19 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-04-30 18:38:37 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-05-07 05:59:51 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-05-07 06:19:14 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-05-08 07:49:28 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-05-08 08:03:44 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-05-08 08:37:41 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-05-08 09:04:14 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-05-09 05:34:33 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-05-09 07:01:56 

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