On May 13, 9:33 am, Don Sample <dsam...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> In article
> <5234a623-0e00-4772-a85a-a61543746...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> Arbitrar Of Quality <tsm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > On May 12, 11:26 am, Don Sample <dsam...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > > I've always thought it was the other way around. The monks wanted
Dawn
> > > protected, so when they were planting memories in everyone, they
planted
> > > a compulsion to protect Dawn into Spike, and they also planted the
idea
> > > into Buffy that Spike could be trusted with her sister.
>
> > > Spike deciding that he was in love with Buffy was his way of
> > > rationalizing all the unvampirey protective feelings he was having
> > > toward Dawn. He didn't protect Dawn for Buffy's sake.
>
> > I never know when people are joking.
>
> > -AOQ
>
> I'm not joking.
>
> How else can you explain Spike not getting a stake through his heart
> after his attempt to get the chip removed in "Out of my Mind" or
> kidnapping Buffy in "Crush"?
Bad writing in the former case, but it's not the first time Buffy has
refused to kill Spike, including after a betrayal; as I argued during
the first run-through, the chip makes a difference to her between
murder and self-defense. I can't see her staking him post-FFL.
> Buffy not only doesn't stake him, she
> keeps turning to him for help protecting Dawn and her mother.
I don't think you need to introduce a mystical compulsion there. He's
a sorta-ally who can be bought off and/or is devoted to her (depending
on the point in the series) and has superpowers.
> Even after Buffy was gone, Spike continued to hang around, protecting
> Dawn.
He wasn't even haunted by the memory of Buffy and his promise to her,
either.
The thing about Spike deciding he was in love with Buffy because of
Dawn sure reads like a joke, given that he shows no desire to protect
Dawn (or indeed, any scenes with or mention of her as far as I can
remember) until Buffy tells him to ("Checkpoint" is the first
example). Whereas he first realizes his feelings for Buffy at the end
of OOMM, eight episodes earlier.
-AOQ
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