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Re: A Second Look: BTVS S7D5

by "One Bit Shy" <OBS@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 8, 2008 at 11:05 PM

"mariposas rand mair fheal" <mair_fheal@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:mair_fheal-089A87.01514207052008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> In article <JN2dndn1LO9307zVnZ2dnUVZ_rignZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> "One Bit Shy" <OBS@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> "mariposas rand mair fheal" <mair_fheal@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> news:mair_fheal-5A5CF0.20331806052008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > In article
>> >
<l64o-1rj5-CCF1ED.22133606052008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > >,
>> > vague disclaimer <l64o-1rj5@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article <COidndvF8dzWG4fVnZ2dnUVZ_uOdnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>> >>  "One Bit Shy" <OBS@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >  the im****tant comparison is Willow.  Her trigger is magic.
>> >>
>> >> But in this season the only person she has been a danger two is 
>> >> herself
>> >> and, briefly, Kennedy - and that was dealt with explicitly in-story.
>> >
>> > unlike spike willow and andrew and the rest have to choose to serve
fe
>> > spike was different because he could be hijacked whether he wanted or

>> > not
>>
>> Willow willingly (and with encouragement) uses magic in spite of her 
>> belief,
>> other people's belief, and real evidence that she is at great risk of 
>> losing
>> control and going on some kind of murder spree of her own.  How is that
>> different?
>
> so youre saying spike chose to fill a basement with dead bodies
> and lure buffy there?

No.  Nor do I imply it.  Obviously the details of their stories are 
different.  I am saying that the risks with each are comparable and 
deliberately constructed by the series as a parallel.  They both are 
vulnerable to losing control and causing great mayhem.  They both have 
triggers that set them off.  (Willow actually has two.  Magic generally, 
plus Amy's spell - just to make the parallel with Spike more explicit.) 
They both have hidden emotional blocks to overcome before being able to 
operate reasonably safely.  They both want to be restrained.  (Spike 
physically with chains.  Willow by refusing to use magic.)  They both are 
pushed into operating without those restraints.  In the broad story
they're 
very much alike, with the primary contrast being the varying perceptions
of 
each by the characters.  Only Buffy (and maybe Andrew, who shares much of 
the parallel) treats Spike the same way everybody treats Willow.

OBS
 




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A Second Look: BTVS S7D5
Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-25 18:57:52 
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peachy ashie passion <  2008-04-26 18:02:56 
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Malsperanza <malsperan  2008-04-27 12:50:24 
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Michael Ikeda <mmikeda  2008-04-27 16:05:37 
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vague disclaimer <l64o  2008-04-27 22:38:17 
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Michael Ikeda <mmikeda  2008-04-28 16:55:01 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-04-28 22:03:02 
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Don Sample <dsample@[E  2008-04-29 07:08:30 
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vague disclaimer <l64o  2008-04-27 22:23:47 
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"One Bit Shy" &  2008-04-28 00:30:25 
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Michael Ikeda <mmikeda  2008-04-28 17:20:41 
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vague disclaimer <l64o  2008-04-30 08:56:28 
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"One Bit Shy" &  2008-04-30 20:05:18 
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vague disclaimer <l64o  2008-04-30 09:11:59 
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"One Bit Shy" &  2008-04-30 20:27:58 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-28 16:56:48 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-04-28 21:56:19 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-28 17:04:10 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-04-28 21:18:43 
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vague disclaimer <l64o  2008-04-30 08:52:06 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-28 17:58:43 
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"One Bit Shy" &  2008-04-29 01:16:01 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-28 18:04:55 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-04-28 21:09:01 
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"Apteryx" <a  2008-04-29 13:52:11 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-30 17:33:47 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-04-30 17:52:03 
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William George Ferguson &  2008-05-01 15:21:08 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-05-01 17:48:29 
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"One Bit Shy" &  2008-05-01 23:11:04 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-05-01 21:26:36 
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vague disclaimer <l64o  2008-05-06 22:13:37 
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Michael Ikeda <mmikeda  2008-05-06 17:44:23 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-05-06 20:33:18 
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"One Bit Shy" &  2008-05-07 02:40:37 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-05-07 01:51:42 
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"One Bit Shy" &  2008-05-08 23:05:31 
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"One Bit Shy" &  2008-05-07 02:37:52 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-30 17:53:41 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-04-30 18:21:07 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-30 17:58:55 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-30 18:05:02 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-04-30 18:32:19 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-04-30 18:38:37 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-05-07 05:59:51 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-05-07 06:19:14 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-05-08 07:49:28 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-05-08 08:03:44 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-05-08 08:37:41 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-05-08 09:04:14 
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Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-05-09 05:34:33 
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mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-05-09 07:01:56 

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