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Re: ATS S4D6 (III)

by Don Sample <dsample@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 12, 2008 at 12:26 PM

In article 
<18d12bf0-71d0-416d-ab12-1b3b0ab6b347@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 Arbitrar Of Quality <tsmtsm@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> On May 9, 8:13 pm, "One Bit Shy" <O...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> > It's more than that.  Spike's conversations with Dawn are used to draw
out
> > the changes going on inside Spike.  Sometimes more clearly than with
Buffy
> > because, with Dawn, the obsession can be distanced.  Look at their
> > conversation in Tough Love for example.  But again, I'm not talking
merely
> > about people's feelings for Dawn directly.  Dawn is central to Spike's
> > character in S5 because protecting her is the catalyst to breaking
through
> > Buffy's defenses, getting her to treat Spike like a man.  Spike does
care
> > about Dawn personally, but more im****tantly she is the object by which
> > Spike's elevation beyond simple vampire can be measured.  In the end
he
> > fails to protect Dawn, while Buffy succeeds in an act of ultimate
heroism.
> > That little play (with Buffy as role model and Dawn as measure) is
> > representative of Spike's upcoming story where he fails to repress his

> > evil,
> > changes the paradigm by getting a soul, and ultimately mimics Buffy
one 
> > last
> > time with his own act of ultimate heroism.
> 
> See, again, that's kinda my point.  Dawn is primarily im****tant to
> Spike's story because she's an extension of Buffy.

I've always thought it was the other way around.  The monks wanted Dawn 
protected, so when they were planting memories in everyone, they planted 
a compulsion to protect Dawn into Spike, and they also planted the idea 
into Buffy that Spike could be trusted with her sister.

Spike deciding that he was in love with Buffy was his way of 
rationalizing all the unvampirey protective feelings he was having 
toward Dawn.  He didn't protect Dawn for Buffy's sake.

-- 
Quando omni flunkus moritati
Visit the Buffy Body Count at <http://homepage.mac.com/dsample/>
 




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ATS S4D6 (III)
Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-05-08 08:34:06 
Re: ATS S4D6 (III)
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-05-08 22:41:45 
Re: ATS S4D6 (III)
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-05-09 00:59:58 
Re: ATS S4D6 (III)
Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-05-09 05:31:22 
Re: ATS S4D6 (III)
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-05-09 21:13:57 
Re: ATS S4D6 (III)
Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-05-12 05:51:26 
Re: ATS S4D6 (III)
Don Sample <dsample@[E  2008-05-12 12:26:42 
Re: ATS S4D6 (III)
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-05-12 20:32:31 
Re: ATS S4D6 (III)
Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-05-13 06:31:04 
Re: ATS S4D6 (III)
Don Sample <dsample@[E  2008-05-13 10:33:38 
Re: ATS S4D6 (III)
mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-05-13 09:08:01 
Re: ATS S4D6 (III)
Michael Ikeda <mmikeda  2008-05-13 17:31:01 
Re: ATS S4D6 (III)
Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-05-13 15:51:57 
Re: ATS S4D6 (III)
Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-05-13 16:33:55 
Re: ATS S4D6 (III)
Arbitrar Of Quality <t  2008-05-13 16:36:56 
Re: ATS S4D6 (III)
Michael Ikeda <mmikeda  2008-05-14 17:25:22 
Re: ATS S4D6 (III)
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-05-15 02:19:46 
Re: ATS S4D6 (III)
Michael Ikeda <mmikeda  2008-05-16 07:32:52 
Re: ATS S4D6 (III)
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-05-15 02:03:29 

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