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Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]

by "DavidW" <no@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 20, 2008 at 11:09 AM

One Bit Shy wrote:
> "DavidW" <no@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> As I mentioned in another thread, I am new to BTVS. I am just coming
>> up to the
>> end of season 2. I am thinking back to the episode with the other
>> slayer, Kendra. She turned up because Buffy had died, very briefly,
>> earlier on. This
>> implies that when one slayer dies, another will soon replace her.
>
> Yes.
>
>
>> From the
>> vamps' point of view then, there's no point in killing a slayer
>> unless that
>> slayer is a particularly strong one like Buffy, since the
>> replacement is most
>> likely not going to be as strong. Conversely, if the current slayer
>> is a particularly weak one, wouldn't it be in the vamps' interests
>> to protect her,
>> since if they kill her the next one is likely to be stronger?
>
> If there were an organized nation of vampires, then that would make a
> lot of sense.  But there's not.  And vampires aren't terribly
> sensible anyway. Just blood thirsty in a very literal way.  (The
> Master probably would have liked an organized nation of vampires, but
> he had to settle for one group of minions and a local Slayer problem.
> Besides, from his point of view, killing Buffy fulfilled a prophecy
> to his advantage.)

I really liked the Master. I was sorry that Buffy killed him. I like Spike
too, 
though. I guess the show wasn't big enough for the two of them.

> From an individual vampire's point of view, the Slayer that matters
> is the one that's in its face.  However weak or strong this one is,
> it's still better for the next Slayer to be in some other vampire's
> face.
> Some vampires probably like to kill Slayers to wear as a badge of
> pride.  Do you remember what Spike said in School Hard?
>
> Spike:  You've got Slayer problems. That's a bad piece of luck. Do
> you know what I find works real good with Slayers? Killing them.  ...
> Yeah, I did a couple Slayers in my time. I don't like to brag. Who am
> I kidding? I *love* to brag!
>
> In mythic terms, Slayer vs. vampire is a perpetual battle.  They're
> supposed to fight each other.  It's what they are.

Okay, all that makes a lot of sense.

>> Also, there seems to be a contradiction between having a new slayer
>> as soon as
>> one dies and one slayer per "generation", unless "generation" is
>> just the average time they last rather than a rule set down by the
>> powers that be. If
>> there's really only one per generation then vampires should try to
>> kill them all
>> as soon as possible so they can have up to about 20 years slayer
>> free.
>
> "Generation" means the life span of an individual Slayer after she's
> called. It's not an average.  One generation might last seven years.
Another 
> might last seven weeks.  But it's a straight sequence, one
> after the other, which each Slayer representing one generation. (Until
Kendra 
> anyway.  Buffy seems to have messed things up by being
> brought back to life.)

Yes, it raises the question of whether there would be two Slayers from
then on, 
i.e., a replacement for each of Buffy and Kendra when they die, and
replacements 
for them, and so on. I don't recall anything about what Kendra was going
to do 
when she was sent on her way. Is she off slaying somewhere, or being kept
on 
ice?

This is off-topic for this thread, but I just wanted to say how much I
like the 
Cordelia character. With her complete self-absorption
and...uh...directness, 
she's a great asset to the show. Charisma Carpenter is the perfect actress
for 
that part, especially for her voice. She must have had a ball in that
role.
 




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Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
"DavidW" <no  2008-05-20 09:58:58 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-05-19 20:30:33 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
"DavidW" <no  2008-05-20 11:09:48 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-05-20 18:59:05 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Don Sample <dsample@[E  2008-05-20 19:15:53 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-05-20 19:26:37 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
"DavidW" <no  2008-05-21 10:37:01 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
"Mason Barge" &  2008-05-22 12:38:48 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
"DavidW" <no  2008-05-23 09:22:44 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-05-19 17:41:50 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Alison Dubois <sendtou  2008-05-19 21:28:51 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Don Sample <dsample@[E  2008-05-19 22:28:50 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Fallen <fallen@[EMAIL   2008-05-20 07:57:46 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-05-20 01:01:14 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
William George Ferguson &  2008-05-20 10:17:51 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Fallen <fallen@[EMAIL   2008-05-21 15:29:06 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
William George Ferguson &  2008-05-21 10:08:43 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Fallen <fallen@[EMAIL   2008-05-22 00:29:08 
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espie@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-20 09:28:16 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Fallen <fallen@[EMAIL   2008-05-21 15:32:51 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Thanatos <atropos@[EMA  2008-05-20 06:30:49 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Don Sample <dsample@[E  2008-05-20 13:19:44 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Fallen <fallen@[EMAIL   2008-05-21 15:33:38 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Don Sample <dsample@[E  2008-05-21 13:51:59 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Fallen <fallen@[EMAIL   2008-05-22 00:28:23 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Don Sample <dsample@[E  2008-05-21 19:53:15 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Fallen <fallen@[EMAIL   2008-05-22 01:28:10 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Don Sample <dsample@[E  2008-05-21 20:34:25 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Fallen <fallen@[EMAIL   2008-05-22 03:08:49 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-05-21 20:37:51 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
"DavidW" <no  2008-05-22 13:51:34 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Fallen <fallen@[EMAIL   2008-05-22 18:01:35 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Don Sample <dsample@[E  2008-05-22 20:54:37 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
"DavidW" <no  2008-05-23 11:46:35 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-05-22 20:04:26 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Don Sample <dsample@[E  2008-05-23 02:09:33 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-05-23 00:22:42 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
"DavidW" <no  2008-05-24 09:03:34 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
"\(Harmony\) Watcher  2008-05-22 01:58:24 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
"DavidW" <no  2008-05-22 13:35:34 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
"John Smith" &l  2008-05-21 14:24:42 

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