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Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]

by Fallen <fallen@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 22, 2008 at 12:45 AM

One Bit Shy wrote:

> "Thanatos" <atropos@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:atropos-2BE3A2.16295921052008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>>In article <dsample-82853D.16113221052008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>>Don Sample <dsample@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In article <atropos-96F623.15353421052008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>>> Thanatos <atropos@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>In article <dsample-3DC5F5.13492521052008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>>>> Don Sample <dsample@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>In article <RwWYj.28604$U61.26516@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>>>>> Fallen <fallen@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Don Sample wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>In article <atropos-AC830B.22211920052008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>>>>>>> Thanatos <atropos@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>In article <dsample-43E172.20183520052008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>>>>>>>>Don Sample <dsample@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>We have no idea where Kendra was called, but she probably wasn't 
>>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>North America.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have a pretty good idea. Her accent was Caribbean, all of which 
>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>part of North America.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Some people think that her accent was from the Ivory Coast, in 
>>>>>>>Africa.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Some people would be horribly wrong then. It's clearly west indian 
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>closest to Jamaican.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>As mentioned below, the Ivory Coast mostly speaks French and 
>>>>>>residents
>>>>>>don't have anything close to a Jamaican accent..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Fallen.
>>>>>
>>>>>Saying that someone was from somewhere, based on their accent, is
>>>>>fraught with error. People all over the world have accents that sound
>>>>>like they come from somewhere else.
>>>>
>>>>Yes, but this is a TV show.
>>>
>>>What's that got to do with it?
>>
>>A lot. When a character is introduced on a TV show with a Caribbean
>>accent, it's done in order to indicate that she's from the Caribbean,
>>not that she's the daughter of Jamaican expatriate parents living in
>>Moscow or something equally convoluted.
> 
> 
> According to Marti Noxon's commentary, the dialogue coach based the
dialect 
> on some specific part of Jamaica.  However, I believe the intent of the
show 
> was to be non-specific.  The episodes never say where Kendra comes from.

> Her Watcher is named "Sam Zabuto", which doesn't sound very Jamaican to
me. 
> Marti, the writer of the What's My Line where Kendra is introduced, also

> says that to her ears the accent is unidentifiable.
> 
> I don't think they wanted it be recognized as Caribbean at all.  I think

> they just wanted it to sound exotic, with the location a mystery.
> 
> OBS 

That's a weird conclusion to come to from the evidence you give. If a 
dialogue coach bases her accent on a specific part of Jamaica - and she 
does sound like she's Jamaican - your conclusion is that they wanted her 
to sound non specific? According to the actress she was told to speak in 
a jamaican accent and certain things were only changed because you 
couldn't understand them properly if you said them in full Jamaican
patois.

Also 'Rupert Giles' doesn't exactly sound like he's from California does 
he so her Watcher's name is meaningless (Not that I know whether the 
surname Zabuto can be found in jamaica or not anyway).

Fallen.
 




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Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
"DavidW" <no  2008-05-20 09:56:05 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
"DavidW" <no  2008-05-20 09:58:03 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
espie@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-20 09:25:15 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Don Sample <dsample@[E  2008-05-20 13:17:28 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Thanatos <atropos@[EMA  2008-05-20 19:32:54 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Don Sample <dsample@[E  2008-05-20 20:18:35 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Thanatos <atropos@[EMA  2008-05-20 22:21:19 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Don Sample <dsample@[E  2008-05-21 03:52:23 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Thanatos <atropos@[EMA  2008-05-21 06:17:39 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Fallen <fallen@[EMAIL   2008-05-21 15:41:39 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Don Sample <dsample@[E  2008-05-21 13:49:25 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Thanatos <atropos@[EMA  2008-05-21 15:35:34 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Don Sample <dsample@[E  2008-05-21 16:11:32 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Thanatos <atropos@[EMA  2008-05-21 16:29:59 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-05-21 19:38:46 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Fallen <fallen@[EMAIL   2008-05-22 00:45:09 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-05-22 02:01:39 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Thanatos <atropos@[EMA  2008-05-22 08:27:17 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-05-22 17:52:51 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Fallen <fallen@[EMAIL   2008-05-22 17:57:22 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-05-22 19:44:30 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Fallen <fallen@[EMAIL   2008-05-23 02:49:19 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-05-23 03:29:54 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Thanatos <atropos@[EMA  2008-05-21 20:03:23 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-05-22 02:01:40 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Thanatos <atropos@[EMA  2008-05-22 08:23:04 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-05-22 17:36:46 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Don Sample <dsample@[E  2008-05-22 20:44:46 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Thanatos <atropos@[EMA  2008-05-22 21:24:01 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
"DavidW" <no  2008-05-23 11:58:21 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Thanatos <atropos@[EMA  2008-05-23 07:32:36 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
"John Briggs" &  2008-05-26 19:09:14 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Don Sample <dsample@[E  2008-05-26 14:37:29 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
"John Briggs" &  2008-05-26 20:11:24 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Don Sample <dsample@[E  2008-05-26 17:26:40 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-05-26 18:33:10 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
"DavidW" <no  2008-05-27 09:38:23 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Thanatos <atropos@[EMA  2008-05-26 16:29:38 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Fallen <fallen@[EMAIL   2008-05-23 02:51:52 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Fallen <fallen@[EMAIL   2008-05-23 02:58:29 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
"One Bit Shy" &  2008-05-23 04:54:49 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
Fallen <fallen@[EMAIL   2008-05-22 00:38:45 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-05-21 20:21:59 
Re: Should vamps protect some slayers? [spoiler]
mariposas rand mair fheal  2008-05-20 18:11:33 

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