marika (or some kind of Turing machine) wrote:
>
> "Ted" <nospamforted@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:42C0C3BA.9D016B71@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
>
> >
> > No, you see, there are two seaosns of Carnivale...
>
> that;s weird I could have sworn I walked in on the third season. i
guess my
> friend introduced towards the second half of the second, which seemed
like
> the third??
>
> i heard nick stahl was supposed to be in a movie based on a comic strip
> where he plays a stinky guy. i predict a hit for this one, in spite of
the
> character
> being the same in both shows, what with the constant dust and stinkiness
and
> sweating, people like him . i am surprised though
> that he agreed to 2 same characters.... isn't that acting hell? i
> didn't think carnivale was a SMASH show, but it seemed "smart" to me,
> like the frasier crowd will watch it. hopefully the movie will get
funnier
> because i like sthal .
Sin City. Troll? Badly out of the loop?
>
> >
> > snip
> > > > There are prophets and there are princes. There is an avatar born
each
> > > > generation. Knauf explained that the only avatars are these; and
that
> > > > the new avatars are born after the death of an old avatar in the
> > > > strongest avataric bloodline available (and the bloodlines are
spread
> > > > wide; they stem from someone, or a pair of someones; one might
suspect
> > > > that the crusader heads seen in Ben's first season dreams might be
a
> > > > clue as to who).
> > >
> > > like i said i didn't get to see those
> >
> > They've been released on dvd. You can rent them. Or buy them. Or get
> > thenm from Netflix. Or borrow them from friends.
>
> sure i can rent them, but i don't have a dvd player,
So the $30 to buy a DVD player is beyond your means?
> the episodes i did get to see were the ones that my friend Julia had on
her
> dvr.
>
> >
> > snip
> > > > The avataric blooded can have some talent.
> > >
> > > so did you figure out what the edentulous scidder family got as
their
> powers
> >
> > If you have avataric blood, you CAN have powers. You don't just get
> > powers.
> >
>
> i don't know. how does this explain Norman the Walton. How did he get
the
> powers to levitate that gun nout of the cops holster when he was
supposed to
> be totally paralyzed. without the cop ever noticing. he was not
supposed
> to be that nimble fingered. seems like he had some wack powers, that
never
> got explained. I think the evidence shows he just got power.
Avatars can grant power; Scudder gave some to Lodz.
And Norman's power is the power of "no one pays close attention to the
cripple".
>
> I think this is the main reason that carnivale was not successful.
> supposedly it had all these rules for who was an avatar and who had
powers,
> but knauf never really seemed to follow the rules, it was more like he
made
> these powers rules up as he went along
No; Sophie is the avataric wild card Knauf talked about, and she's the
offspring of an avatar. Lodz was given power by an avatar. Krohn has
powers of an avataric bloodline.
>
> and what about varlan where'd he get all his weird powers like conning
tht
> guard to kill himself
Justin did that over the radio, same way he contacted Stroud.
>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > how come the rest of the scudder clan seemed so powerless,
> > > > > the least these edentulous wonders could have done was to at
least
> have
> > > > > created some sort of caries prevention medicine
> > > >
> > > > They could have power, but they are controlled by the krohn.
> > >
> > > i think you mean crowns, or lack thereof in this instance
> >
> > No. Ben's middle name is Krohn. Likely a family name. Like if you have
> > someone in your family who is called something that sounds like
"crone".
> >
>
> wow no WAY. I didn't know that was his middle name
There's a wanted poster in the first season that shows it. By a damn DVd
player and rent the ****ing first season.
>
> > >
> > snip
> > > > Well, ultimately they're probably family, but when you have dream
> > > > visions of who you need to kill, you can see where they are and
hunt
> > > > them down. Like maybe you see a ferris wheel, so you know the
> carnivale
> > > > hides your enemy.
> > >
> > > that would make everyone in vienna evil.
> >
> > 1) The person whose enemy was hidden was the creature of darkness.
>
> that could be anyone, that could be me or the entire city of vienna
>
> > 2) Even being the creature of darkness doesn't mean you're evil; you
can
> > opt out, like old Hack did.
>
> that was some kinda hella opt out. blind then dead
> fun
Hack is Scudder, not Lodz. Lodz is not avataric (or if he is, he's not
known to be closely blood related to our heroes).
>
> >
> > snip
> > > i couldn't convince my friend julia that is what it loooked like
> > > she says i am seeing things
> >
> > She's right. The ferris wheel is a six pointed star (think Star of
> > David).
>
> that;s not the focus of what I was seeing, step outside of the box
>
> >The mark of the usher isn't even symmetrical.
>
> you can be flexible about the superpower rules but not about the symbol
Why
> does it HAVE to be symmetrical
Because you said "cos it looks exactly like justin's tree tattoo in
negative image."
>
> what i was seeing was just the points of light against the dark. the
points
> of light when lit in the dark, the cameraman kept shooting at this weird
> angle where they weren't really symmetrical at all, or round, or regular
in
> pattern.
>
> the weird pattern they made when the wheel was at an angle was exactly
the
> weird pattern that the tattoo made in one scene, where certain points on
the
> tree wre ****ning, just about lit up just like the wheel. i can't
remember
> how close in time the two camera shots happened, but they were pretty
close
> to one another and it was one of the times stahl was sapping justin's
> strength
>
> it was bizarre and i cannot imagine i am the only one who noticed it
because
> i am not that visually endowed
It was never brought up in this Carnivale group. Hardly everyone, of
course.
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