"ellen" <epdpster@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> you all have probably caught this one already, but since it just came
> to my attention, i'll toss it out. it's a bit long, but classic. i
> think it is authentic, but we never know, do we?
>
>
http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/2008/02/06/video-interviewer-picks-the-wrong-obama-sup****ter-to-try-to-railroad/
>
> his emotional response, that you can access from that link, is also
> quite good & moving, as he talks about his background, democracy, etc.
>
> i will always be cynical.
> i will always want to believe.
>
> ellen
>
Interesting. I had read his commentary on CNN.com, but I hadn't seen the
videos. I, too, am a cynic who wants to believe. This young man is
impressive.
I listened to Obama's speech on unity, and was again much moved. I would
so
like to have a leader who can speak in paragraphs again (and Obama does so
much more than that). I'm afraid, though, that typical voters won't have
heard or seen the speech, and if they had, that so many won't have heard
what I heard in that speech. I'm married to a lapsed Catholic, but still
a
staunch Catholic who would never leave his church even though he
recognizes
so much of the wrong done within the Church, and even though he does not
agree with all the tenants of the Church.
I myself am an agnostic, more so now than before, so I don't much listen
to
preachers, priests, rabbis, or any other organized religious leader, since
I
think I can form my own opinions, and, in my humble opinion, since my
views
are much more humanistic and inclusive than most believers in organized
religion. But I can't color all believers with the same brush. I
disappointed my in-laws when I wouldn't convert. It wasn't that I was
agnostic then; it was simply because I couldn't convert knowing very well
that I planned to take birth control and believe in pro-choice. My
sisters-in-law, baptized as babies, had no compunction about going against
the tenants to practice birth control. I suppose it's a stretch to
equate
birth control with Wright's sound bites, but it's just another example of
people not always agreeing with religious leaders but staying with their
Church anyway.
I have to note that my in-laws are all strong, conservative Republicans
with
whom I most generally disagree, but do not voice my dissent for the sake
of
peace (believe me, when my husband is silly enough to get into a political
argument with them, it's ugly). They are also pretty overtly racist, esp.
the parents. But I love them. so I understand sticking by people you
don't
agree with.
It's amazing to me (well, not really so much) that people come off so much
holier than thou about not disavowing someone you've cared for for 20
years.
It's also amazing to me the number of people who say "He's only been a
Christian for 20 years, what was he before that?" Must have been a
Muslim.
I've been an agnostic (can't go as far as atheist) for 20 years, wonder
what
I must have been before that? My families are both horrified when I say
that, but I know I'm a good person.
Anyway, I guess all this rumination is a result of my growing
"hope"lessness. I think the Democrats have managed to snatch defeat from
the jaws of victory again. I think all this arguing back and forth, all
this finger pointing at Obama's secret "hate-mongering," at Clinton's
11,000
pages of "not much there," is handing a close victory to McCain (for all
his
confusion about who's who in the middle east terror game).
I'm hoping very much to be wrong.
Peahen
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