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Re: symbolism in "Curb Your Enthusiasm"

by Amy <odelbrecht@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 13, 2005 at 09:20 PM

" I wonder how
 > many seemingly facile tv shows have subliminal symbolical layers
 > intentionally embedded?
 >
 > -Max"

I agree, Max.  You're right.  And, that's the problem.  Not enough shows 
have that...alright, next to NONE.  That's why I don't watch a lot of TV 
shows anymore.  And being a child of the 80's, it was a hard thing to 
let go of...I was so disappointed that "the tube" started letting me 
down.  Thank God for Larry!  He's all we have left!  I am anxiously 
awaiting Season 5.  It can't come soon enough :)

max1974isome@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> Amy wrote:
> 
>>I find your analyzation of Larry interesting...  Definitely
> 
> different, but
> 
>>interesting.  It is definitely an onion of a show, so many layers to
> 
> it, so
> 
>>much can be taken from it.  It's all in how one looks at it I guess!
> 
> I had
> 
>>different ways of seeing the episodes than you do, but again, your
> 
> words
> 
>>were definitely interesting.  It's so great to see people taken with
> 
> this
> 
>>genius of a show.  More Curb fans!  Emerge all Curb fans!!!
> 
> 
> Hi Amy,
> 
> I probably have the same way of "seeing" the show as you do.  They're
> entertainment primarily.  I just try to analyze them later.  When I
> told her about this subtext theory, my friend immediately "decoded" one
> of the episodes from memory - one that I was stuck on.  I wonder how
> many seemingly facile tv shows have subliminal symbolical layers
> intentionally embedded?
> 
> -Max
> 
> 
> 
>><max1974isome@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>news:1111363219.935020.66910@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>>There is an undercurrent of symbolism in CYE that I haven't yet
> 
> seen
> 
>>>acknowledged or discussed.  Here's a few examples to get people
>>>thinking:
>>>
>>>"The Shrimp Incident" is about hypocricy.  The opening scene has
> 
> Larry
> 
>>>complaining about getting a shrimp dish already picked-through by
>>>someone else (an acquaintance who denied it).  Later we see Larry
>>>dissembling to Julia about the freshness of his new sitcom idea
> 
> that
> 
>>>will feature her, actually an idea which he had already first tried
> 
> to
> 
>>>launch with George.
>>>
>>>A more concentrated scene distills the theme: around a game of
> 
> cards,
> 
>>>Julia shares her delight in having a show on HBO where she can say
>>>words like "****" and "****."  Only a few minutes later, Larry is
>>>ostracized from the same group for using the word "****."
>>>
>>>None of these ironies are outwardly acknowledged in the show, of
>>>course, which is why they constitute the symbolical layer.  You
> 
> will
> 
>>>find such a layer subsisting in almost every episode (perhaps,
> 
> every
> 
>>>one).
>>>
>>>"The Baptism", for example, is not merely a farce about a
> 
> miscarried
> 
>>>conversion to Christianity, but about the cost of yielding to
> 
> outside
> 
>>>pressure at the cost of one's identity (note the parallel sub-plot
>>>framing the episode of Cheryl's attempt to rid Larry of his
> 
> cherished
> 
>>>jacket).
>>>
>>>Some themes are less than "messages."  What is the message of "The
>>>Acuptuncturist" except that attempts to help others can create
> 
> worse
> 
>>>problems? (here the metaphor of the story of the incompetently cut
>>>umbilical cord has dual meanings, augmenting the overall theme
> 
> while
> 
>>>also reflecting Larry's interference in a father-son dependency).
>>>
>>>It goes without saying, that such obvious premediated symbolism
>>>contradicts to some extent the reputation of the show's improvised
>>>nature.
>>>
>>>I find that the first scene often gives the key by which the
> 
> symbolic
> 
>>>meaning of the rest of the episode can be unlocked.  Happy hunting!
>>>
>>>-Max Schmeder
>>>
>>>(to reply by email, remove the year from the address)
>>>
> 
>
 




 4 Posts in Topic:
symbolism in "Curb Your Enthusiasm"
max1974isome@[EMAIL PROTE  2005-03-20 16:00:19 
Re: symbolism in "Curb Your Enthusiasm"
"Amy" <amyth  2005-04-01 17:20:30 
Re: symbolism in "Curb Your Enthusiasm"
max1974isome@[EMAIL PROTE  2005-04-03 14:16:01 
Re: symbolism in "Curb Your Enthusiasm"
Amy <odelbrecht@[EMAIL  2005-04-13 21:20:44 

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