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Re: When DC went downhill

by "Sharpe Fan" <sharpeseagle2003@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 14, 2004 at 02:32 PM

"Seaclock" <seaclock@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>
[snipped]
>
> And Sharpe Fan wrote:
>
> > I hate the Dawson Leery character
>
> What is it exactly that people hate about him?  Too moody?  Too
> self-centered?  I've never thought him particularly worse than any of
> the others except that he seemed almost entirely humorless except for
> the birthday episode when he and Andie sang.  I found Pacey more
> consistently unlikeable except when he was with Andie who seemed to
> really make him ****ne.  He was intelligent and noble whereas with Joey,
> the woman who was supposed to make him a better man, he turned into an
> academic flunky and and a surly, discontented boyfriend.

I hated Dawson mainly because he was such a horrible friend.  If you were
down he was a "good friend" because he could feel superior.  If you did
well, he resented it.  He had a sense of entitlement that was unlimited. 
He
assigned everyone in his life a role in the"screenplay" of his life that
he
wrote and if you dared to deviate from the role assigned he would try to
force you back into the role - that role being to show by comparison how
great is Dawson.

I really liked the Andie/Pacey story in season two and was unhappy when it
ended.  However, I thought the Pacey/Joey story  line in season three was
also great.  And in season three Pacey was still doing well, as far as we
could tell.  It wasn't until season four that the writers "revealed' that
Pacey was an academic disaster in season three.  I think this was partly
to
help cause the P/J relation****p to crash (Oh, the drama!) and partly to
make
help Dawson ****ne by comparison.

Season four was the deification of Dawson.  He literally saves Pacey and
Jen
in the beginning of the season and saves Joey college dream at the end and
in the middle restores a dieing filmmakers love of life and movies.  Crap
on
a stick (to quote JoA).  The only reason Dawson stole the boat to save
Pacey
was to connect him with the dieing director.  Dawson could have easily
ordered the storm to abate and walked out to the boat.

>
> > As for the finale, I was a P/J ****pper, but TPTB laid no basis for
Joey
> > getting together with Pacey (or Dawson).  I am happy with the result,
but
> > felt I was cheated out of seeing how it happened.
>
> I've talked about this before but the whole idea of there having to be a
> "Dawson or Pacey?" question to be resolved was so unrealistic.  After
> all this time when their lives would have changed enormously, what on
> earth would Joey be doing running back to either of her high school
> boyfriends?  They all would have moved on to other people and the most
> realistic thing would have been a few days in Capeside when they would
> have caught up, reminisced, maybe talked about what might have been, but
> still they would have gone back to other things.  BUT, that's not what
> the series was about and so I found the P-J ending unsatisfying.  KW
> originally wrote a D-J finale but felt sorry for Pacey who was left
> alone (Meredith Monroe was not available for the necessary time it would
> have taken to re-establish Andie in Pacey's life) so he rewrote it.  As
> I said above, the finale seemed rushed to me.
>
> Seaclock

I disagree that KW intended a D/J ending.  I have no proof for my position
either, but unless you someone has do***ented quotes from him on the
subject, I don't want to get into it.  I went through the P/J vs. D/J wars
at the time and don't want to relive them now.

Sharpe Fan
 




 40 Posts in Topic:
When DC went downhill
Seaclock <seaclock@[EM  2004-06-12 02:07:52 
Re: When DC went downhill
mbg <womblekewl@[EMAIL  2004-06-12 10:39:42 
Re: When DC went downhill
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2004-06-12 17:50:35 
Re: When DC went downhill
"Sharpe Fan" &l  2004-06-14 00:28:57 
Re: When DC went downhill
Seaclock <seaclock@[EM  2004-06-14 03:22:15 
Re: When DC went downhill
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2004-06-14 03:13:07 
Re: When DC went downhill
Seaclock <seaclock@[EM  2004-06-15 04:05:39 
Re: When DC went downhill
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2004-06-15 17:51:21 
Re: When DC went downhill
Seaclock <seaclock@[EM  2004-06-16 02:26:21 
Re: When DC went downhill
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2004-06-16 02:50:36 
Re: When DC went downhill
Seaclock <seaclock@[EM  2004-06-17 02:57:10 
Re: When DC went downhill
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2004-06-17 00:50:05 
Re: When DC went downhill
Seaclock <seaclock@[EM  2004-06-18 02:29:13 
Re: When DC went downhill
"Sharpe Fan" &l  2004-06-18 03:09:47 
Re: When DC went downhill
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2004-06-18 19:00:19 
Re: When DC went downhill
Seaclock <seaclock@[EM  2004-06-19 03:46:30 
Re: When DC went downhill
"Sharpe Fan" &l  2004-06-17 13:59:25 
Re: When DC went downhill
Seaclock <seaclock@[EM  2004-06-18 02:25:58 
Re: When DC went downhill
"Sharpe Fan" &l  2004-06-18 03:12:59 
Re: When DC went downhill
"Sharpe Fan" &l  2004-06-14 14:32:31 
Re: When DC went downhill
Seaclock <seaclock@[EM  2004-06-14 15:31:31 
Re: When DC went downhill
"Sharpe Fan" &l  2004-06-14 17:31:11 
Re: When DC went downhill
Seaclock <seaclock@[EM  2004-06-15 03:38:12 
Re: When DC went downhill
"Sharpe Fan" &l  2004-06-15 14:15:38 
Re: When DC went downhill
Seaclock <seaclock@[EM  2004-06-15 20:37:58 
Re: When DC went downhill
"Sharpe Fan" &l  2004-06-15 21:40:08 
Re: When DC went downhill
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2004-06-15 17:37:53 
Re: When DC went downhill
Seaclock <seaclock@[EM  2004-06-16 01:56:40 
Re: When DC went downhill
Brian Brady <bradyfan@  2005-09-01 21:15:02 
Re: When DC went downhill
Brian Brady <bradyfan@  2005-09-01 21:11:56 
Re: When DC went downhill
"Sharpe Fan" &l  2005-09-02 14:45:06 
Re: When DC went downhill
Brian Brady <bradyfan@  2005-09-01 21:08:27 
Re: When DC went downhill
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2004-06-15 18:15:53 
Re: When DC went downhill
"Sharpe Fan" &l  2004-06-16 02:17:03 
Re: When DC went downhill
"Sharpe Fan" &l  2004-06-17 00:18:10 
Re: When DC went downhill
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2004-06-17 00:36:00 
Re: When DC went downhill
"Sharpe Fan" &l  2004-06-17 14:14:42 
Re: When DC went downhill
Brian Brady <bradyfan@  2005-09-01 21:07:08 
Re: When DC went downhill
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2004-06-14 03:19:30 
Re: When DC went downhill
"Sharpe Fan" &l  2004-06-14 14:57:18 

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