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Re: When DC went downhill

by "Sharpe Fan" <sharpeseagle2003@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 14, 2004 at 05:31 PM

"Seaclock" <seaclock@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:nxjzc.58094$Np3.2628710@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sharpe Fan wrote:
>
>
> > I hated Dawson mainly because he was such a horrible friend.  If you
were
> > down he was a "good friend" because he could feel superior.  If you
did
> > well, he resented it.
>
> Good point which I never thought of.  It brings to mind what he said to
> Pacey at his 16th birthday, something like Pacey's life was supposed to
> be awful so the he, Dawson, could fell better about his own.

That scene was the one that made Dawson's failure as a friend very
apparent.
The scene was played largely for laughs and I guess we are supposed to
figure Dawson was drunk and so he speech isn't to be trusted.  However,
the
speech matches his actions and attitudes elsewhere to accurately to be
discounted, IMHO.

>
> > Season four was the deification of Dawson.  He literally saves Pacey
and
Jen
> > in the beginning of the season and saves Joey college dream at the end
and
> > in the middle restores a dieing filmmakers love of life and movies.
Crap on
> > a stick (to quote JoA).  The only reason Dawson stole the boat to save
Pacey
> > was to connect him with the dieing director.  Dawson could have easily
> > ordered the storm to abate and walked out to the boat.
>
> LOL!  On the other hand, couldn't you just argue that this was Dawson's
> better nature coming out?  Maybe he was growing up?

There was never any indication before season four that he had a better
nature and very little evidence in later seasons either.

>
>
> > I disagree that KW intended a D/J ending.  I have no proof for my
position
> > either, but unless you someone has do***ented quotes from him on the
> > subject, I don't want to get into it.
>
> I'm pretty sure I heard in the DVD commentary that indeed it was a D-J
> finale first but then he changed it.  I will check this again.  Anyway,
> the cut scene between Pacey and Andie in the hospital made me really
> wish TPTB had been able to get them back together as they seemed so
> natural (there's that word) togther, but schedules are schedules.
>
> Seaclock

I remember before the series finale aired there were all sorts of
"spoilers"
about a D/J ending.  I think the basis was the dream sequence and the TV
show Dawson was running.

I am sure at some point a D/J finale was considered, just like an ending
with Joey with neither of them.  You would have to consider the various
alternatives as a writer or producer in order to decide which ending made
the most sense and also made the fans happiest.

They really had written themselves into a bind.  Without a lot of
intervening writing - at least a half dozen episodes - it was hard to
match
up Joey with either of them.  However the audience wanted her with one or
the other (I believe that P/J had a much bigger following by then than
D/J)
so I doubt hooking Joey up with someone else or no one was ever seriously
considered.

Sharpe Fan
 




 40 Posts in Topic:
When DC went downhill
Seaclock <seaclock@[EM  2004-06-12 02:07:52 
Re: When DC went downhill
mbg <womblekewl@[EMAIL  2004-06-12 10:39:42 
Re: When DC went downhill
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2004-06-12 17:50:35 
Re: When DC went downhill
"Sharpe Fan" &l  2004-06-14 00:28:57 
Re: When DC went downhill
Seaclock <seaclock@[EM  2004-06-14 03:22:15 
Re: When DC went downhill
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2004-06-14 03:13:07 
Re: When DC went downhill
Seaclock <seaclock@[EM  2004-06-15 04:05:39 
Re: When DC went downhill
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2004-06-15 17:51:21 
Re: When DC went downhill
Seaclock <seaclock@[EM  2004-06-16 02:26:21 
Re: When DC went downhill
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2004-06-16 02:50:36 
Re: When DC went downhill
Seaclock <seaclock@[EM  2004-06-17 02:57:10 
Re: When DC went downhill
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2004-06-17 00:50:05 
Re: When DC went downhill
Seaclock <seaclock@[EM  2004-06-18 02:29:13 
Re: When DC went downhill
"Sharpe Fan" &l  2004-06-18 03:09:47 
Re: When DC went downhill
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2004-06-18 19:00:19 
Re: When DC went downhill
Seaclock <seaclock@[EM  2004-06-19 03:46:30 
Re: When DC went downhill
"Sharpe Fan" &l  2004-06-17 13:59:25 
Re: When DC went downhill
Seaclock <seaclock@[EM  2004-06-18 02:25:58 
Re: When DC went downhill
"Sharpe Fan" &l  2004-06-18 03:12:59 
Re: When DC went downhill
"Sharpe Fan" &l  2004-06-14 14:32:31 
Re: When DC went downhill
Seaclock <seaclock@[EM  2004-06-14 15:31:31 
Re: When DC went downhill
"Sharpe Fan" &l  2004-06-14 17:31:11 
Re: When DC went downhill
Seaclock <seaclock@[EM  2004-06-15 03:38:12 
Re: When DC went downhill
"Sharpe Fan" &l  2004-06-15 14:15:38 
Re: When DC went downhill
Seaclock <seaclock@[EM  2004-06-15 20:37:58 
Re: When DC went downhill
"Sharpe Fan" &l  2004-06-15 21:40:08 
Re: When DC went downhill
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2004-06-15 17:37:53 
Re: When DC went downhill
Seaclock <seaclock@[EM  2004-06-16 01:56:40 
Re: When DC went downhill
Brian Brady <bradyfan@  2005-09-01 21:15:02 
Re: When DC went downhill
Brian Brady <bradyfan@  2005-09-01 21:11:56 
Re: When DC went downhill
"Sharpe Fan" &l  2005-09-02 14:45:06 
Re: When DC went downhill
Brian Brady <bradyfan@  2005-09-01 21:08:27 
Re: When DC went downhill
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2004-06-15 18:15:53 
Re: When DC went downhill
"Sharpe Fan" &l  2004-06-16 02:17:03 
Re: When DC went downhill
"Sharpe Fan" &l  2004-06-17 00:18:10 
Re: When DC went downhill
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2004-06-17 00:36:00 
Re: When DC went downhill
"Sharpe Fan" &l  2004-06-17 14:14:42 
Re: When DC went downhill
Brian Brady <bradyfan@  2005-09-01 21:07:08 
Re: When DC went downhill
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2004-06-14 03:19:30 
Re: When DC went downhill
"Sharpe Fan" &l  2004-06-14 14:57:18 

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