"Seaclock" <seaclock@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> Sharpe Fan wrote:
>
> >>>I hated Dawson mainly because he was such a horrible friend.
>
> [snip]
>
> >>On the other hand, couldn't you just argue that this was Dawson's
> >>better nature coming out? Maybe he was growing up?
> >
> > There was never any indication before season four that he had a better
> > nature and very little evidence in later seasons either.
>
> I see your point but I guess I don't see him in a quite so black and
> white way. In other words, I can see his flaws but I don't hate the
> character. I'm willing to allow for some character development.
> Anyway, he wasn't the only villain. I think the way Joey treated him
> was pretty awful. It probably doesn't need repeating but the way she
> dumped him to "find herself" (note to writers: identity crises are for
> middle-aged people, not 15-year-olds) then dumped him again out of what
> was really misdirected anger at her father for his crimes were not
> examples of stellar behavior. I think she really just took it for
> granted that she could treat him any way she wanted and he'd be there
> for her in the end which, in fact, was true. And yet, somehow, no
> matter how she behaved she ended up looking like the victim, or wanting
> to. So as far as D-J go, the two of them have plenty to hold against
> each other. As for Dawson and other characters, I couldn't be bothered
> tonight trying to analyze those relation****ps.
Even if I liked dawson, I couldn't see how the D/J's thought the two were
destined tobe together because of how they treated each other over the
years. I feel Dawson treated Joey worse (but hat maybe my bias), but she
treated him (and Pacey) poorly also.
The break up caused by her father's re-arrest was well done, I think.
Dawson was right in what he wanted to do, but maybe he could have handled
it
nicer. Joey's anger at him for her wearing the wire and her father's
arrest
was wrong, but it was understandable. She was mad at her father and
herslef
(for wearing the wire) and she took it out on a more or less innocent
victim
(Dawson). Her actions makes "sense" even though she is wrong.
>
> >>>I disagree that KW intended a D/J ending. [snip]
> >>
> >>I'm pretty sure I heard in the DVD commentary that indeed it was a D-J
> >>finale first but then he changed it. I will check this again. [snip]
>
> Okay, I found one reference in the commentary over the reunion scene at
> the Ice House. Paul Stupin says to Kevin Williamson that when KW was
> writing the first hour the plan was to have Dawson and Joey end up
> together and that part of the reason for bringing back Meredith Monroe
> was to serve as a "consolation prize" for Pacey who he felt needed some
> kind of romantic fulfillment. KW says that ultimately he couldn't live
> with that kind of second best arrangement. Interestingly, it was
> apparently of no concern that Dawson be shown getting any kind of
> emotional fulfillment. Gail gets remarried, Jack gets Doug, Pacey gets
> Joey, and Dawson gets a meeting with Spielberg. Doesn't quite measure
> up. Now, of course, if you hate Dawson then nothing short a sentence to
> serve out his days as the sole inmate of a penal colony is appropriate.
;-)
Dawson got the "we will always be special to each other" speech as well as
his "career", so it is not like he was left to die on an ice flow. There
seemed to be more meaningful Dawson/Joey scenes in the finale than
Pacey/Joey scenes.
As an aside, it is a weird "career". His big break in the Capeside
Redemption was a filming on the group's early years (his second attempt at
that, by the way) and now his show is the same thing. He seems to have
only
one story to tell - a fictionalized version of his high school years.
>
> > They really had written themselves into a bind. Without a lot of
> > intervening writing - at least a half dozen episodes - it was hard to
match
> > up Joey with either of them.
>
> Agreed. That's why the five-year interval was a bad choice from a
> technical standpoint so long as the finale had to stand alone
> chronologically. That is, if they had wanted to resolve everything
> after five years then perhaps a better, if unorthodox, choice would have
> been to finish the college ****tion of S6 several episodes back and then
> finish the show with a series of episodes set in the future so that
> there could be some coherent explanation for Joey's ending up with
> either of them. As things stood, I guess we were supposed to think that
> in the five years they hadn't seen each other at all (it felt that way
> to me) and thus there was no reason for the issue to come up. Hence my
> feeling that the episode was rushed, not in terms of pacing alone but
> also in overall quality.
I like your suggestion of how they could have wrapped up the series. It
would have worked much better than what they did.
And I also got the feeling that the group had only minimal contact in the
intervening years, which makes the Pacey/Joey ending (or a Dawson/Joey for
that matter) seem to come from nowhere.
>
> Seaclock
Sharpe Fan
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