Re: When DC went downhill

"Rob Jensen" <ShutUpRob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> Sharpe Fan wrote:
>
> > "Seaclock" <seaclock@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> > news:40CD19E7.1060300@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > [snipped]
> >
> >>And Sharpe Fan wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I hate the Dawson Leery character
> >>
> >>What is it exactly that people hate about him?  Too moody?  Too
> >>self-centered?  I've never thought him particularly worse than any of
> >>the others except that he seemed almost entirely humorless except for
> >>the birthday episode when he and Andie sang.  I found Pacey more
> >>consistently unlikeable except when he was with Andie who seemed to
> >>really make him ****ne.  He was intelligent and noble whereas with
Joey,
> >>the woman who was supposed to make him a better man, he turned into an
> >>academic flunky and and a surly, discontented boyfriend.
> >
> >
> > I hated Dawson mainly because he was such a horrible friend.  If you
were
> > down he was a "good friend" because he could feel superior.  If you
did
> > well, he resented it.  He had a sense of entitlement that was
unlimited.
He
> > assigned everyone in his life a role in the"screenplay" of his life
that
he
> > wrote and if you dared to deviate from the role assigned he would try
to
> > force you back into the role - that role being to show by comparison
how
> > great is Dawson.
> >
> > I really liked the Andie/Pacey story in season two and was unhappy
when
it
> > ended.  However, I thought the Pacey/Joey story  line in season three
was
> > also great.  And in season three Pacey was still doing well, as far as
we
> > could tell.  It wasn't until season four that the writers "revealed'
that
> > Pacey was an academic disaster in season three.  I think this was
partly
to
> > help cause the P/J relation****p to crash (Oh, the drama!) and partly
to
make
> > help Dawson ****ne by comparison.
> >
> > Season four was the deification of Dawson.  He literally saves Pacey
and
Jen
> > in the beginning of the season and saves Joey college dream at the end
and
> > in the middle restores a dieing filmmakers love of life and movies.
Crap on
> > a stick (to quote JoA).  The only reason Dawson stole the boat to save
Pacey
> > was to connect him with the dieing director.  Dawson could have easily
> > ordered the storm to abate and walked out to the boat.
> >
>
> Deification of Dawson?  I never got that from s4.  Maybe part of it
> comes from not being part of the hooplah when it was airing for the
> first time, but it seemed like Dawson was having a hard time figuring
> out where the good decision to make Joey go with Pacey came from.  His
> relation****p with Gretchen made him face up to his lack of life
> experience, but even then, he was still making an ass of himself by
> constantly trying to compete with Pacey for Joey and other asinine
> reasons.  Even his arc with Brooks, which I thoroughly enjoyed, was
> partly Dawson working through his bitterness about J-P and how he'd
> selfishly pushed himself away from moviemaking over it.  By losing his
> presumption of heroism and moral authority, he became more authentically
> heroic.  Although his continuing to pine for Joey after Gretchen left
> just grated.
>
>    -- Rob Jensen
>

I don't think Dawson ever over the whole six seasons lost his presumption
of
heroism or moral authority (or moral superiority) -it just became less
justified.

Sharpe Fan