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OT _ Dawson Creek

by "Sharpe Fan" <sharpeseagle2003AntiSpam@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 15, 2005 at 12:11 AM

"Rob Jensen" <ShutUpRob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:1118788958.843e8cfc903ef4cb17ac3179d62f4d08@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:31:14 GMT, "Sharpe Fan"
> <sharpeseagle2003AntiSpam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Rob Jensen" <ShutUpRob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>news:1118770101.2dcdbdcbb92e5c09efb11545409d8824@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:48:44 GMT, "Anne" <AnneWithAnE@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I'm looking for something to fill in the viewing gaps during summer
>>>>re-runs,
>>>>and as someone who has managed to have never seen an episode of
Dawson's
>>>>Creek, I am wondering if it's worth renting ?  Where does it fall on
the
>>>>quality continuum relative to Gilmore Girls ?
>>>
>>> The first two seasons of Joey's Creek are equal to the best Gg
>>> episodes (I totally cried at the resolution of Pacey and Andie's story
>>> at the end of season 2), the third and fourth seasons are worthy, but
>>> slip somewhat in quality (mostly because the novelty has worn off and
>>> they've become too-settled into their groove) until Sasha Alexander
>>> comes on the scene as Pacey's sister Gretchen and Dawson's reluctant
>>> Mrs. Robinson in s4.
>>
>>I thought the first three season were excellent, maybe not GG quality
but
>>very good.
>>
>>I hated season 4, beyond all reason.
>>
>>Gretchen was only about three or four years older than Dawson (she is
>>Pacey's older sister (the youngest of three older sisters)).  She was
not
>>Dawson's mother's age, which would have made her Mrs. Robinson.  The
Mrs.
>>Robinson character was Tamara.
>>
>
> I agree that Pacey/Tamara was the actual The Graduate homage, but I
> was shorthanding Dawson/Gretchen, especially since the age difference
> was a problem for Gretchen.
>
> I know that a lot of Pacey fans don't like season 4 because of the
> ending (I'm trying not to spoil it for the original poster), but I
> totally buy into it as the thesis statement for a more ambitious
> multi-year storyline about Pacey's self-esteem issues that they were
> never able to pull off  -- primarily because they could never figure
> out a way to justify keeping Pacey in proximity to the rest of the
> gang in Boston -- and that they totally gave up on by the time they
> got to the horrible s6 arc where they ripped off Boiler Room and
> thoroughly destroyed Pacey as a character.
>
> But in s4, the Dawson/Gretchen was spectacular in a way that
> practically demanded them bringing Gretchen back in s6 as Dawson
> regained his footing (but which they never did) and even the
> joey/Pacey arc worked -- far better than most fans give it credit for.
> But I think the way the show botched Pacey in s5 and 6 prevented the
> show from fully realizing their rationale for having Pacey unravel and
> undo at the end of s4 all the maturation he had gone through in s2 and
> 3.  Thus, the show never quite justifies the re-introduction of the
> Dawson/Joey/Pacey triangle in the series finale -- the triangle as
> treated in the finale in and of itself works, but when considered in
> relation****p to the rest of the series, it doesn't and only compounds
> the story mess of the last two seasons.  That's why I think it's
> simpler to just recommend fast-forwarding through everything not
> having to do directly with Dawson in s5 and 6 -- following Dawson only
> makes a viable epilogue to s1-4.
>
>  -- Rob
>

First deliberately watching anything to do with Dawson after season 1 or 
maybe 2, if you have the option not to, is masochism.  Dawson is the only 
character in a TV show we are supposed to like, at least sometimes, that I

truly hated.

My problem with season 4 is not that merely that it reintroduced the P/J/D

triangle, although I hated that, it was that it spent the season deifying 
Dawson and destroying Pacey.  To avoid more spoilage, I will not elaborate

with examples.

And for health and sanity reasons I will drop out of this thread after
this 
post.

Sharpe Fan
 




 4 Posts in Topic:
Re: during summer re-runs - a question
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2005-06-14 12:23:41 
Re: during summer re-runs - a question
"Sharpe Fan" &l  2005-06-14 18:31:14 
Re: during summer re-runs - a question
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2005-06-14 17:43:00 
OT _ Dawson Creek
"Sharpe Fan" &l  2005-06-15 00:11:22 

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