On Apr 29, 4:08=C2=A0pm, Bonbon <tresbon...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Apr 29, 5:17=EF=BF=BDpm, "Julia Dream" <pinkw...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
> =C2=A0=EF=BF=BDTalking about how he always had to do the crap things in
>
> > some of his movies i.e. being forced to act like a pig and almost
being
> > raped in "Deliverance", and having to pull his pants down for Jackie
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> > in "The Toy". =EF=BF=BDMy favorite of his roles, though, was that of
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Luthor's
> > bumbling assistant Otis in "Superman"! =EF=BF=BDLOL>
> > Becky
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> What do you mean, "almost" in Deliverance. =C2=A0He WAS raped.
=C2=A0That =
part
> was so disturbing to me. =C2=A0I guess anytime a man rapes a man, it's
> really disgusting.
>
> Bonbon
*Just* a man? Shoot, I cried off and on for like three days on end
after seeing Jodie Foster in The Accused and that's not even same sex
rape. I swore up and down that if she didn't get the Oscar, I'd never
watch the Academy Awards again. (I also cried a lot when Robert DeNiro
kept violently and physically beating on Leonardo DiCaprio in "This
Boy's Life"....very hard to stomach even though it WASN'T rape.) I
guess what I'm trying to say is that AFAIC, no act of rape is
homosexual or heterosexual, really, BB, it's just a confused and
really obsessed power trip that's warped all the way around.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing as you in terms of my recollection
of that one scene (but who am I to talk, I mean I though I'd heart the
guy was in poor health and had died, Geez....Must of been some other
born in the late 1930's actor guy, I 'spose, eh?).....I mean I think
he *WAS* raped in the film....exactly, Becky. I remember my father
years ago saying that no film has ever discomforted him so---for that
very reason and that whole theater was squirming and really creeped
out.
Apparently, the writer of Deliverance (the actual novel, I'm not sure
who penned the screenplay), James Dickey, has rural property in my
state or else once did. A fellow student that I had a writing class
with several years ago had many interesting things to say about him
one day in class. Her own horses were stabled on his property and the
guy has a vast knowledge of horses and a lot of cash to throw around
to boot, so his property is quite expansive. She said he doesn't just
merely write about that kind of stuff, that he's a foul mouthed jerk
in real life, too. She said he's just about the most disgusting and
vile creature she's ever met.
When asked why she didn't take her horses off his property sooner, she
said that her parents were too good of friends with him and that the
friendship extended over 16 years. She didn't say he touches women,
mind you, but she had more than enough colorful descriptions of how he
speaks to them and about them. She went on to say that he tosses out
stories about his sexual conquests a dime a dozen, even in front of
teenagers---that it's just *really* unsettling and creepy. Our
professor got kind of pissy with her and told her "Ok, ok, that's
enough" and agreed that Dickey has got a real "Man's man" reputation
and (back then, I don't know if James Dickey's still alive?) that it's
*VERY* hard to tell if it's all for show in order to sell his books or
if that's really how he feels.
All I know is the whole thing totally creeped me out and even though
I've seen various clips from the film over the years, I've never been
able to watch the whole thing or read the whole book. I mean, yeah,
sure lots of guys brag about their sexual conquests while sitting on a
bar stool amongst friends or whatever and that's bad/tacky/boastfully
obnoxious enough, but in front of female teenagers? That's just sad.
She said he was kind of rough and tumble around the horses, too, and
accused him of not being gentle enough with them.
S*Babykins
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