npardue@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> I wasn't even going to watch ER last night. I thought VERY hard about
> skipping it. I didn't think I could stand to see Luka on his knees
> sobbing out his pleas for forgiveness.
>
> But I tuned in. Nothing better to do. (DH was watching something awful
> in the bedroom, and I had to stay up while a couple of loads of
> laundry did their thing.) And ... to my amazement ... I actually
> liked it. Most of it anyway.
>
....? We may have to agree to disagree on this point, as I saw this as
one of the worst episodes in a while, made all the worse by the fact
that it was supposed to be a "very special" 300th episode.
> The opening scenes were not promising. The stuff with the camel was
> definitely one of the top ten Stupidest ER 'Humor' moments ever
> filmed. (And that scene also included the now required juvenile
> ***ual humor, with the intern gawking at Neela's butt, and (a few
> minutes later) everyone getting the chance to gawk at Dubenko's.
>
Good, here we're back to 110% agreement.
> But, once we got past that part, it mostly worked.
...and right back to 0%. D'OH! ;-)
> The Luka/Abby
> stuff, IMO was handled very well. I LOVED the scene in Neela's
> apartment.
Yep, it was pretty good.
> And as for the feared "Luka begging forgiveness" ... it
> wasn't actually that way at all. In fact, it made perfect sense from
> every viewpoint.
Yeah, I couldn't help noticing that either. I though sure somebody had
told us that Luka was going to be "on his knees" "begging forgiveness".
I'm *sure* somebody said that, but I'll be darned if I can remember
who it was! Well, whoever it was, I have to believe that this was a
one-time occurrence, and that such fabrication of plot elements was in
no wise precipitated by a pathological loathing for an imaginary
television character, and will not ever happen again.
In completely unrelated news... anybody seen sharons(s) lately?
> Guilt is NOT a rational emotion. People often feel
> a sense of guilt when something terrible happens, even if it isn't
> their fault, and wasn't anything that they could have changed or
> avoided. So, when Abby told Luka most things (and he probably guessed
> the rest), he felt guilty. Of course he had to be with his dad, but
> it doens't change the fact that, during his absence, and, at least to
> some extent, DUE to his absence, Abby had some awful stuff happen.
> (Not to mention his ability to see, when he did arrive home, that
> something was very wrong, or at least to guess what that 'something'
> might be. And now, due to this bad stuff, he and Abby have to be apart
> again. So yeah, "It's my fault," is a very normal, human reaction,
> and a very normal, human way of expressing pain and grief. (And, just
> for the record, he wasn't on his knees.)
>
He *wasn't* on his knees, was he? I can't say why, but I was
particularly paying attention to Luka's knees, and at no time was he
down on them, so I can vouch for your observation. Why would we both
have been thinking the exact same thing, when said exact same thing
never happened? It's almost as if somebody had told us something about
Luka and his knees which turned out to be a total confabulation.
Spooky.
> I was also dreading Julia's "ER blessing ceremony" but that too
> worked amazingly well.
Oh nononono, no it didn't.
> I think the fact that it was not only handled
> seriously, but the characters/actors took it all seriously made it
> work. (One confusion though. Wasn't Julia talking about things that
> happened THIS year? So why were most of the 'patients who changed
> you' memories from season 12? (Of course ... S13 had almost no
> memorable stories.) And I could question whether Abby really WAS
> 'changed' in any way by (forget his name) her former prof with the
> degenerative disease. But, those are small quibbles.
>
Hmm. It just did not work for me on any level. The "flashbacks" didn't
even rise to the level of being corny for me, they just seemed so
out-of-place cinematography-wise.
> The patient storylines were pretty well handled, and both were new.
> (Unless you count the 'kid was stable, then crashed in the ER' stuff,
> but that's been done at least 1000 times since S1.)
Hmmm, no comment.
> I found Sam's new
> Supernurse persona a bit hard to swallow. What ARE they teaching her
> in this 'trans****t' program? (And what is it? I missed the eppy
> where she started it.)
>
At this point in E.R.'s life, it's best to not ask such questions. The
answers are always tragically disappointing.
> And one other question. It seems that very often we've been told that
> once a patient has been intubated, it requires quite a number of of
> legal hoops to jump through before he can be extubated, even if he has
> a clear DNR and/or family members want it done. So how were they able
> to extubate our emphysema lady so immediately?
>
> The 300 Patients concept was pretty well handled too.
Ok, now you are putting us on naoms!
> (Though, I
> dunno, was it 300 pateints in the day, or in 12 hours? If the former,
> it hardly seems excessive for a busy inner city ER.) Still my thought
> at the final bit was "You're going to need those winnings, Morris,
> when Frank has you arrested for assault and battery."
>
Worst single event in E.R. history.
> I was thinking the other day about Julia. Aside from being a poorly
> drawn character, she's also not a very logical choice for chaplain in
> this ER. Surely the patient base (given its location and status) is
> going to lean heavily towards Catholics (Chicago is the largest
> Catholic diocese in the country) and, among the African Americans,
> fairly conservative main-stream protestants. (Baptist, AME, etc.)
> These are not people who are likely to respond well to a chaplain like
> this.
>
I doubt the altar boys would complain though. ;-)
> Sigh.... so it was actually a pretty good espisode.
No, I think maybe you're just starting to "settle". I guess I can't
blame you considering the absolute bottom-scrapings they've been feeding
us for years now.
> Still, with Luka
> presumably now gone for good, I don't know if I'm going to bother
> anymore. There is nothing else on the show that holds my interest
> anymore.
>
Well, there's always the Head Of The E.R. Of The Week.
> Naomi


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