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> On Dec 8, 8:39 am, "sharon" <nob...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> snip
>>
>> > The opening scenes were not promising. The stuff with the camel was
>> > definitely one of the top ten Stupidest ER 'Humor' moments ever
>> > filmed. (And that scene also included the now required juvenile
>> > ***ual humor, with the intern gawking at Neela's butt, and (a few
>> > minutes later) everyone getting the chance to gawk at Dubenko's.
>>
>> There is also the stupid notion that any County hospital anywhere would
>> have
>> a 'Christmas pageant' and that it would include a living nativity. The
>> ACLU
>> would be all over that in a heartbeat. The camel bite humor wasn't
worth
>> the ridiculous setup.
>>
>> snip
>>
>> I LOVED the scene in Neela's> apartment.
>>
>> I loved that we got to see that Neela had no idea that Abby was an
>> alcoholic
>> despite being her 'bestest fwend'.
>
>
> Neela DID know. It took her about three seconds to realize that "I'm
> having a drink" was NOT an accurate *****sment of what was going on
> there. And to call Abby out on it and urge her to get help.
Neela didn't seem to have known until that moment. They've supposedly been
close friends for years, even lived together, but Neela didn't know she
was
an alcoholic? In real life, that is exactly the sort of info one would
share with close friends.
>
> I also liked that it was written in such
>> a way that we saw how low Abby had sunk as she viciously attacked Neela
>> to
>> avoid discussing her issues. What I didn't like is that Neela made no
>> effort to prevent Abby from getting in her car and driving off three
>> sheets
>> to the wind. Friends don't let friends drive drunk.
>
>
> Abby took the el? Walked? We DID see, in the eppy where Abby went to
> the air****t, that she WAS rational enough to not try to drive while
> under the influence.
>
She was driving her car on the way to Neela's. Where did she leave it?
Wasn't she still expecting to go to Croatia that evening when she left?
She
was planning to leave the car in the street for a week or two until she
got
back? Abby went to Neela's with every intention of getting blotto and,
yet, she drove her car, she didn't take a cab, she didn't take the El. If
she wasn't rational enough to leave her car at home and take the El over
there to get drunk, why in heaven's name would anyone think she was
rational
enough to do it afterwards? In the eppy where she went to the air****t, we
saw Abby try to drive and be unable to control the vehicle before she got
the cab. She didn't seem to be as drunk in the apartment as she was the
night she bedded Moretti. Like most drunks, Abby thinks she is in better
shape to drive than she actually is.
> I also thought it was
>> very wrong of Neela not to tell Luka what happened when she saw him
>> later.
>> Abby is her friend, this is not the time for keeping secrets; she, her
>> child
>> and everyone else is at serious risk.
>
>
> I think that kind of thing can be a tough call for a friend. Or maybe
> she figured Luka already knew.
>
Doesn't matter, Abby was dangerously out of control; Neela needed to do
whatever she had to do to make sure that her husband was aware. 'Figuring
he already knew' is plain dumb.
> This also makes at least 4 people
>> working at County who know Abby is seriously messed up (and Neela and
>> Luka
>> know exactly what the problem is) who do not bother to try to make sure
>> she
>> doesn't work on patients.
>
>
> Abby wasn't at work. She went in to apply for time off, NOT to see
> patients.
>
But all of those involved knew that she was not coping well at work for
weeks prior and none of them had absolute confirmation that she had taken
the LOA. Also, presuming she had gone to Croatia and attended the
funeral,
there was no reason for anyone to think she was going to be in any better
shape to work when she got back. I am not thinking of just that specific
morning's binge, but of the entire pattern of alcoholism. Neela didn't
know
Abby was going to go to rehab, she still had an obligation to turn her in
before she returned from the funeral and back to work.
>> snipped, since I agree, Luka is the kind of guy who takes
responsibility
>> and
>> it was not out of character for him to feel guilty about Abby's
drinking
>> and
>> his lack of understanding of how serious her problem is. It was,
>> however,
>> completely out of character for him to abandon his wife and child
>> completely
>> for months on end and for him to expect Abby to pay the bills on a
>> resident's salary while he didn't work since they apparently had no
>> savings
>> or credit cards and he didn't negotiate a severance package when he
>> stopped
>> being chief. That was bad writing, with logic holes that a truck could
>> drive
>> through.
>
> Yes, I agree that that was poorly handled. Sometime in the many phone
> conversations they had over the months, the finances SHOULD have come
> up, and Luka should have some savings under him. (They live a fairly
> modest life for two doctors.)
>
>>
>> (And, just> for the record, he wasn't on his knees.)
>>
>> Just for the record, that scene was extensively rewritten. I would
hope
>> GV
>> and MT had some input since both have real life experiences with
troubled
>> marriages including people doing awful things while drunk.
>
>
> I found myself wondering, as I watched, if GV had any difficulty doing
> the scenes, given the mutlple parrallels with RL situtuations I'm sure
> he'd rather put behind him.
>
>
>
>> A Christmas miracle? Part of the reason was she apparently had a DNR
and
>> was also conscious and could confirm her wishes, I think.
>>
>> > The 300 Patients concept was pretty well handled too. (Though, I
>> > dunno, was it 300 pateints in the day, or in 12 hours? If the former,
>> > it hardly seems excessive for a busy inner city ER.) Still my
thought
>> > at the final bit was "You're going to need those winnings, Morris,
>> > when Frank has you arrested for assault and battery."
>>
>> I hated that, it was not funny. Morris has made some real strides in
>> becoming a 3 dimensional character. Nobody would try to break
someone's
>> hand to win a bet, not even him.
>
>
> I KNEW he would hit the 300, but I was expecting him either fake
> something, or maybe injure himself in the process of his celebration.
> Which would have made a LOT more sense.
>
>
> >
>> Happy Hannukah, Naomi!
>>
>
> Thanks. TOday is also my kid's 16th birthday. The mind boggles.
>
> Naomi
>
>
>> Sharon
>
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