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Re: Well I'll be ....

by "sharon" <nobody@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dec 9, 2007 at 06:18 PM

>
> Well, as we're fond of noting, ER isn't real life, and sometimes
> dramatic liscence DOES apply. It was very clear to me that Abby WAS
> headed for a treatment cener somewhere.

Yep, but your point that private facilities are easy to get admitted to in

real life was incorrect. I know she was supposedly headed off to treatment

even though she apparently didn't decide to go until just that evening and

couldn't possibly have had time to make any arrangements.  In Carter's
case, 
we at least heard that Kerry had called someone she knew to get him
placed. 
I have heard of dramatic license, BTW.
>>
snip

>> When, exactly, have we seen her ever sympathize with others?  Sure,
>> sometimes she acts like she gives half a dam* about patients, but, when

>> it
>> comes to her friends and family, we sure don't see her being sup****tive

>> in a
>> crisis very often.  When Carter's grandmother died, her excuse was that

>> she
>> was worried about Eric.
>
> Yes, she cared about Eric.

Abby cared about Eric so much that when she went to see him after he was 
arrested for being AWOL, all she could do was chastise him for not calling

her first and for contacting Maggie.  Then, after she retrieved him from 
Iowa, she insisted he move to Chicago and enter an extremely restrictive 
program.  When Eric (and Maggie) balked at her attempts to control the 
situation, she apparently decided to write him off as we haven't seen or 
heard another word about him since.  Abby cares about Eric only as long as

he lives his life according to Abby's rules.  I think she loves him as
much 
as she can, but she is so emotionally stunted and self centered that it 
ain't much.

We've discussed this scenario a dozen
> times. She was in a tough situation.  She had TWO people who needed
> her at the same time, and she couldn't possibly be there for both.  So
> she dealt with the most pressing crisis, (which, at that point, WAS
> Eric)  then made it back as soon as she could to deal with the next
> one. (Help Carter with the arrangements, and offer moral sup****t.)
>
When did she help Carter with arrangements?  What show were you watching? 
What moral sup****t did she give him?  The only thing we saw her do was
show 
up at the funeral and let her mentally ill brother cause a scene.  No 
sup****t at all.

> And yes, we see her caring about her patients. Often.
>
Only insofar as she needs to 'help' them by forcing her will on them, 
breaking the rules and otherwise being a controlling PITA.
>>
>> Once again, examples please.  When Neela was hurt, we saw her behave
like 
>> a
>> complete a** in order to assert her dominance in the ER, but that was 
>> just
>> more Abby Always Knows Best and must be obeyed, not so much concern for
>> Neela, IMO or she wouldn't have been screeching at the chief of surgery

>> and
>> her boss.
>
> I missed the first eppy this season.

It was the typical 'Abby saves the day' fest in which the entire thing was

written so that Abby turned out to be the only doc who could handle the 
crisis.
>
>
>>
snip
>
>
> What?  When did Abby tell Carter that he had to go to Iowa with her?
> When she bumped into him in the hall, she didn't yet know that Gamma
> had died.  I dont recall the precise dialogue, but once he told her,
> she was very warm and sympathetic, and offered her condolences. She
> DID say that she needed to deal with the Eric crisis, but never even
> hinted that he needed to go with her.

Abby didn't 'bump' into Carter in the hall, she sought him out, wanting
him 
to write some prescriptions for Eric (I won't even get into the ethical 
issues of telling her boyfriend to give meds to someone who isn't his 
patient or for a nurse without an advanced practice degree telling him
what 
to prescribe).  She immediately started babbling on about what had
happened, 
misunderstanding that Carter didn't know about Eric and he was working on
an 
entirely different crisis.  When he told her his grandmother had died, she

briefly touched his hand, that was it, the sum total of her show of
sup****t. 
When he told her his father was coming to town, she immediately suggested 
that that meant he didn't have to hang around to make the arrangements
since 
his father could.  She very clearly meant that he should come with her to 
get Eric.  That's when Carter, noting her cold response to Gamma's death, 
made the sarcastic remark that she was right, Gamma would still be dead 
tomorrow.  During the entire exchange, she had her grubby paw out, waiting

for him to hand her the prescriptions.  She was neither warm, nor 
sympathetic and Carter saw it immediately, don't know how you missed it.
>
snip
>
> Absolutely correct. I was just thinking earlier today that, with the
> odds of the show being renewed roughly equal to that of a snowball
> surviving 6  months hours in hell ... it should have been possible to
> write around Luka's absence without necessitating a long sojourn in
> Croatia for him.  We're already halfway through the season.
>
> Naomi

I am very afraid that a prolonged writer's strike would cause NBC to 
consider a 15th season to give ER a longer sendoff.  Chulack and Wells are

both campaigning for it big time.

Sharon
 




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