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Re: Expelled...not bad....anyone?

by Ken McElhaney <mcelhaney@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 20, 2008 at 06:16 PM

On Apr 20, 7:46=A0pm, Tyler Trafford <ttrafford+use...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Ken McElhaney wrote:
> > Weirdwolf wrote:
>
> >> They actually put out several stories in a special email, including
> >> one on the main misrepresentations in the film.this might be a good
> >> place to start as a basic rebuttal.
> >>http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=3Dsciam-reviews-expelled
>
> > Let's take it one at a time;
>
> > 1) ) Expelled quotes Charles Darwin selectively to connect his ideas
> > to eugenics and the Holocaust.
>
> > Uhm, no. What the film does do is connect how the "science" of
> > eugenics was warped and modified by Hitler in order to justify his
> > treatment of "lesser" peoples.
>
> I'm confused, was this section of the movie kind of a non sequitur,
> then?

The above statement that "Expelled" selectively quotes Charles Darwin
to connect his ideas to eugenics and the Holocaust is not accurate.
What is accurate is that the film presents the early twentieth century
"science" of eugenics and Hitler's own warped beliefs which were
seeded in Darwin's published works. As in Hitler used some of Darwin's
theories and warped them into his own world view.

Example, some dictator uses selected bits from some popular work,
ignores others and warps them to create an oppressive environment for
his/her people.


> > Yet the scientific community has no explaination of the origins of
> > life on Earth, that is certainly without dispute, only some theories
> > that as of yet cannot be proven.
>
> It doesn't matter what can be proven (not in this context), what matters
> is that it is possible to *disprove* them.

You're getting to the core of the film as none of the scientists could
"disprove" Intelligent Design, they only wanted the idea quashed as it
clashed with thier own views.

Ken
 




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Ken McElhaney <mcelhan  2008-04-20 13:36:33 
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Bert Hyman <bert@[EMAI  2008-04-20 20:41:56 
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Tim Weaver <tmw99999@[  2008-04-20 16:02:49 
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Tyler Trafford <ttraff  2008-04-20 21:06:36 
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John Iwaniszek <not@[E  2008-04-20 23:52:21 
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Weirdwolf <hoow@[EMAIL  2008-04-20 21:54:27 
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Bert Hyman <bert@[EMAI  2008-04-20 22:49:16 
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Weirdwolf <hoow@[EMAIL  2008-04-20 23:08:43 
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Jim Larson <larsonjmR.  2008-04-21 00:30:59 
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Weirdwolf <hoow@[EMAIL  2008-04-20 21:06:54 
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Tyler Trafford <ttraff  2008-04-20 21:19:27 
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Ken McElhaney <mcelhan  2008-04-20 16:32:37 
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Weirdwolf <hoow@[EMAIL  2008-04-21 00:52:17 
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Ken McElhaney <mcelhan  2008-04-20 16:43:52 
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Ken McElhaney <mcelhan  2008-04-20 16:50:05 
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Weirdwolf <hoow@[EMAIL  2008-04-21 01:20:20 
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Tyler Trafford <ttraff  2008-04-20 23:57:42 
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Tyler Trafford <ttraff  2008-04-21 00:08:58 
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Tyler Trafford <ttraff  2008-04-21 00:14:13 
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Tyler Trafford <ttraff  2008-04-21 00:46:10 
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Ken McElhaney <mcelhan  2008-04-20 17:47:46 
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Ken McElhaney <mcelhan  2008-04-20 18:02:36 
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Ken McElhaney <mcelhan  2008-04-20 18:16:40 
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Weirdwolf <hoow@[EMAIL  2008-04-21 01:29:34 
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Jim Larson <larsonjmR.  2008-04-21 03:06:47 
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"Steve Brooks"   2008-04-22 17:34:19 
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Tyler Trafford <ttraff  2008-04-21 01:20:47 
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Tyler Trafford <ttraff  2008-04-21 01:43:18 
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Nick <nickSPAMMENOT@[E  2008-04-21 13:23:00 
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Jim Larson <larsonjmR.  2008-04-21 14:56:53 
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Nick <nickSPAMMENOT@[E  2008-04-21 15:08:45 
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Jim Larson <larsonjmR.  2008-04-21 15:11:49 
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Ken McElhaney <mcelhan  2008-04-20 19:39:44 
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Weirdwolf <Hooowl@[EMA  2008-04-21 04:48:00 
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"Steve Brooks"   2008-04-22 17:34:20 
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Ken McElhaney <mcelhan  2008-04-20 19:48:45 
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Ken McElhaney <mcelhan  2008-04-20 19:54:01 
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Weirdwolf <Hooowl@[EMA  2008-04-21 03:50:19 
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Jim Larson <larsonjmR.  2008-04-21 04:14:30 
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Weirdwolf <Hooowl@[EMA  2008-04-21 05:03:10 
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Jim Larson <larsonjmR.  2008-04-21 05:51:09 
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John Iwaniszek <not@[E  2008-04-22 01:43:22 
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Tyler Trafford <ttraff  2008-04-21 03:17:52 
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Tyler Trafford <ttraff  2008-04-21 03:38:18 
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Tyler Trafford <ttraff  2008-04-21 05:25:50 
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Jim Larson <larsonjmR.  2008-04-21 05:52:26 
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Weirdwolf <Hooowl@[EMA  2008-04-21 06:08:55 
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Jim Larson <larsonjmR.  2008-04-21 06:15:32 
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Weirdwolf <Hooowl@[EMA  2008-04-21 12:07:30 
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Tyler Trafford <ttraff  2008-04-21 06:06:51 
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Jim Larson <larsonjmR.  2008-04-21 06:12:49 
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Miguel <mmelgar@[EMAIL  2008-04-21 05:34:58 
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Weirdwolf <hoow@[EMAIL  2008-04-21 13:01:45 
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Tyler Trafford <ttraff  2008-04-21 16:33:54 
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Tyler Trafford <ttraff  2008-04-21 16:48:38 
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Weirdwolf <hoow@[EMAIL  2008-04-21 17:02:22 
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"broughps@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-21 11:11:53 
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Weirdwolf <hoow@[EMAIL  2008-04-21 18:35:33 
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TNW <TNW7z7z7z12345@[E  2008-04-21 17:51:03 
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John Iwaniszek <not@[E  2008-04-22 01:41:11 
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Jim Larson <larsonjmR.  2008-04-22 01:01:25 
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TNW <TNW7z7z7z12345@[E  2008-04-22 00:39:35 
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Jim Larson <larsonjmR.  2008-04-22 05:16:59 
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TNW <TNW7z7z7z12345@[E  2008-04-22 17:24:14 
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Weirdwolf <Hooowl@[EMA  2008-04-22 22:40:57 
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Mark Morrison <blank@[  2008-04-23 18:27:05 
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"Paul Richardson&quo  2008-04-23 19:52:56 
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Tyler Trafford <ttraff  2008-04-22 23:57:25 
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Jim Larson <larsonjmR.  2008-04-23 02:39:13 
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Tyler Trafford <ttraff  2008-04-23 03:09:21 
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"Paul Richardson&quo  2008-04-23 07:15:53 
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Tyler Trafford <ttraff  2008-04-23 13:45:10 
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"Paul Richardson&quo  2008-04-23 19:50:14 

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