Re: Expelled...not bad....anyone?

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larsonjmR.E.M.O.V.E.@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Weirdwolf wrote:
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> > In article <Xns9A86E8AF2F3983v234oiwofui3284af93@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > larsonjmR.E.M.O.V.E.@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> Tyler Trafford wrote:
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> >> > Weirdwolf wrote:
> >> >> In article <05dd0ce5-aa3f-4c8b-ba28-67fe78472b17
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>, mcelhaney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> >>> On Apr 20, 7:52=C2=A0pm, Weirdwolf <h...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> >>> > Ken McElhaney <mcelha...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> >>> > > 6) Many evolutionary biologists are religious and many
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> >> >>> > > people accept evolution.
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> >> >>> > > It presents the personal viewpoints of some scientists who
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> >> >>> > > religion and propose their "fantasy" future where it all goes
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> >> >>> > > way of the Greek myths. The film does not state that this is
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> >> >>> > > of all Darwinian scientists.
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> >> >>> > The associate producer chap states in the interview that they
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> >> >>> > not include religious scientists because it would confuse the
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> >> >>> Again, you're taking something and making into something else. It
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> >> >>> the "fantasy" view of one scientist play out to give some
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> >> >>> as to why some Darwinians are so adament about not even
mentioning
> >> >>> I.D.  At no time is this "fantasy" presented as true of ALL
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> >> >>> scientists.
> >> >>
> >> >> I directly quoted the associate producer,this was an attempt to
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> >> >> appear that "Darwinian scientists" are atheists, something that
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> >> >> meets with disdain in a lot of the U.S. By doing this they have=20
> >> >> artificially created a belief that you are either for Evolution or
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> >> >> God, a common technique used by the ID people.
> >> >>  Oh and by the way, no credible scientist is "Darwinian" the term
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> >> >> derogatory one used because it implies that the works of Darwin
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> >> >> seen as sacrosanct and are the same views on evolution that we
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> >> >> today.=20
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> >> > Just noticed this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Ruse
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> >> > "Ruse takes the position that it is possible to reconcile the
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> >> > religion with Evolutionary Theory, unlike, for example, Richard
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> >> > or Phillip E. Johnson."
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> >> > So, they actually did include a (I assume) religious man; they just
> >> > chose to laugh at him rather than dilute their dichotomy.
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> >> Isn't this a rather transparent strawman? Why is anyone even debating
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> > Because it helps to show the motives and tactics of the people behind=
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> > the movie?
> >  In the scientific American podcast one of the people tells the=20
> > associate producer that he was raised Catholic and yet still accepts
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> > evolution is the best explanation. The  AP guy then tells him that
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> > view is not that of a Catholic of the "mainstream",which appears to
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> > contradicted by the Catholic church and quotes from several popes.
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> Dude...what does a Pope know from Catholicism? You want to talk to
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> Catholic League for that...
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