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> On 16 Dec 2007 16:22:39 GMT, MI5-Victim@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>MI5 Persecution: Molestation during Travel
>>
>>MI5s persecution of me varies in intensity. Since 1990 it has been
steady
>>for perhaps 80% of the time; there was a notable quiet period in 1993,
and
>>another quiet period in Jan-Feb 1995, as well as a hiatus in the first
two
>>months of 1999. It puzzles me that they cease and restart, seemingly
>>without any logic or reason. But one aspect of MI5s activities against
me
>>which is relatively predictable is this weeks articles topic, which is
>>Molestation during Travel. Almost every time I cross the Atlantic, go to
>>the Continent or even try to enjoy a holiday in this country, you can
bet
>>that MI5 will be there doing their utmost to wreck it all.
>>
>>This aspect of the harassment is particularly relevant as I will be
>>travelling to Europe again in a months time, with naturally the Minidisc
>>recorder in tow; so it will be interesting to see if I can record the
>>abuse which will almost certainly take place, either on the Tube going
to
>>the airport, at the airport, on the flight, in the terminal building -
MI5
>>have previously instituted instances of abuse at each of these
locations,
>>so well see how much taxpayers money they waste this time, and whether
it
>>will prove possible to capture their abuse on minidisc.
>>
>>Read about the MI5 Persecution on the Web
>>
>>June 1992 in Polands mountain resort of Zakopane
>>
>>The persecution started in June 1990, and for the first two years I
stayed
>>in the UK apart from a couple of brief day trips to Calais. By the
summer
>>of 1992 Id had enough of being cooped up in England with abusive fellow
>>employees egged on by an abusive secret police service, and decided to
>>spend 10 days in southern Poland, on what was intended to be a holiday
at
>>the mountain resort town of Zakopane.
>>
>>Unfortunately the psychopaths of the Security Service were not willing
to
>>allow me to enjoy a holiday in peace and quiet. The journey to Zakopane
>>was by coach from the meeting point at Londons Victoria coach station
>>(National Express) followed by ferry followed by another coach across
>>Europe. As we left Victoria a youth and his girlfriend started a loud
>>tirade of abuse directed at "this bloke", where the "bloke" was never
>>named, but it was very clear that the "bloke" was myself. The youth said
>>"they" had "found somebody from his school, and he was always really
>>stressed at school, a real psycho". Again, the label "they" was not
>>elaborated on, but it was clear that "they" = the persecutors from
>>MI5. The boy also said, "he was in a bed and breakfast for only one
night
>>and they got him". By a not unexpected coincidence I had been in a B&B
in
>>Oxford a week previously, which had been booked from work; other things
>>lead me to the conclusion that the company's offices were bugged for
most
>>of the 2 1/2 years that I was there, so "they" would have known a room
in
>>the B&B had been booked. After a few minutes of this I went back to
where
>>they were sitting and asked where they were travelling. The boy named a
>>village in France, and the girl's giggling suddenly ceased; presumably
it
>>permeated to her brain cell what the purpose of the boy's abuse was.
>>
>>It is now very clear to me that MI5 were trying to have me incarcerated,
>>assaulted or killed on this trip across Europe. The degree of verbal
>>violence inescapably leads to this conclusion. When we arrived at our
>>destination, it became clear that many people, both in our tour group
and
>>its guide, and among the ordinary residents of the town, knew there was
a
>>movement under way to "get" me. MI5 employed many people and significant
>>resources for an action which they knew would only take a maximum of ten
>>days. A commercial operation would never have felt able to waste such
>>resources on such an unproductive and temporary action; only a
>>state-sponsored, taxpayer-funded entity like the Security Service would
be
>>able to be so wasteful.
>>
>>To give some examples of what happened in those ten days; I was walking
in
>>some woods outside the town, when a Polish woman, looking at me, said
the
>>English "shit" in a strongly Polish-accented voice. For the first three
>>years 1990-92 MI5 had been trying to force this word on me. Another
>>example; I was walking near my "hotel" when a mother said laughing to
her
>>child, "a wiesz ze to prawdziwy wariat" which means "you know hes a real
>>madman". And the "TV reacting" happened there too; on Polish TV, a
bemused
>>looking journalist said to another, "to jest sprawa Anglikow", which
means
>>"its the concern of the English", in other words, none of our business,
>>despite what the English are trying to force down our throats.
>>
>>Just before we left for home, I went with some others from our group to
a
>>nearby bar. There a man shouted at me the same sexual obscenity which
MI5
>>have constantly thrown at me these last three years. I think MI5 try to
>>justify their various terms of abuse by repeating them at me until I say
>>them, either while conscious or while talking in my sleep; and then they
>>seize on my saying those words to "prove" that the obscenities are "my
>>fault", et cetera. This rather stupid reasoning of theirs can actually
be
>>seen as indicative of the psychopathic condition attributed to them in a
>>previous article; blaming the victim for the crime you inflict on him is
>>how psychopaths think.
>>
>>Nor did the persecutors let up during the return trip. Returning on the
>>ferry over the channel, a rather insalubrious-looking guy talked to his
>>mates about "and you know this bloke, hes really mad you know, hes
really
>>mad". On the National Express return coach to London, a group of five or
>>six young people started shouting at me. I slumped in my seat and tried
to
>>avoid presenting a target, so they got ever more strident - "whats the
>>matter with you, cant you hear us?" One of the other people who had been
>>on the trip to Poland asked them why they were shouting at me, and they
>>said, "hes been to Cambridge", to which the co-holidayer asked them,
"have
>>you been to Cambridge?" presumably thinking they were aggrieved fellow
>>students, but they answered "no". Even after I left the coach at
Elephant
>>and Castle abuse continued; in the tube station, two kids started
throwing
>>abuse at me; one of them said to the other, "and you know he works?" to
>>which the other answered "yes".
>>
>>Immediate Aftermath of November 1992
>>
>>As you will know from previous articles, my manager at OCG -
ARIS/Oxford,
>>Mr Mitchell, induced a mental breakdown in me in the months leading up
to
>>Nov/92. The diagnosis was regarded by the persecutors as a victory for
>>them, because few if any people give credence to allegations of
harassment
>>when they are made by somebody suffering from schizophrenia. There is
also
>>a bias against the mentally ill, an "institutionalised bigotry" in
society
>>comparable to the institutionalised racism against blacks.
>>
>>However, MI5 did not let up on persecuting me following Nov/92. In
>>December 1992 I flew by charter jet to Alicante in Spain for two weeks
>>recuperation. MI5 planted one of their people on the flight, a youth who
>>tried to start some noises that "hes a nutter". One of the other
>>passengers replied, "oh hes a nutter is he? oh well!" and the youth shut
>>up and said nothing for the rest of the flight. I think it would be fair
>>to say that the youth on the flight was embarrassed by what he had been
>>asked to do in making the flight "uncomfortable" for me; he sounded
>>defensive rather than aggressive.
>>
>>My first trip to Canada in June 1993
>>
>>Ive already covered this in a previous article so Ill just give a brief
>>summary here. On 10 June 1993 I flew British Airways from Heathrow to
>>Torontos Pearson Airport. On de-planing from the aircraft, one of a
group
>>of four fellow passengers looked at me and said, laughing, "if he tries
to
>>run away well find him". It was quite obvious that these four men were
the
>>ones who had been harassing me since 1990.
>>
>>I did nothing to apprehend them or bring this incident to the attention
of
>>the airport authorities, mostly because this was my very first visit to
>>Canada, and the last thing I wanted was to get into a dispute before I
had
>>even finished disembarking. In retrospect, I can see this was a terrible
>>mistake; I should have made every effort to detain and identify these
>>people.
>>
>>Subsequently I have made numerous attempts to obtain the names of these
>>people from British Airways passenger lists, by talking to BA, through a
>>lawyer in Ontario, through a solicitor in England, through the UK
police,
>>and also through private detectives in the UK. But all my efforts have
>>come to nothing. BA have told me they keep passenger lists for a period
of
>>seven years, so they will still have the list for this 1993 flight. I
did
>>not see or hear anything during the rest of my visit to Ontario in 1993
>>which would have lead me to believe that I was being watched or
followed.
>>
>>Journey across Canada in summer 1994
>>
>>As I think Ive already said in previous articles I emigrated to Canada
in
>>late May 1994. For six weeks between late May 1994 and early July 1994 I
>>travelled across Canada from coast to coast, starting in Toronto,
visiting
>>various cities and ending up in British Columbia. I saw this both as
>>something of a holiday, and the chance to get to know a little better my
>>adopted country.
>>
>>As you can guess, MI5 followed me everywhere I went during these six
>>weeks. In Toronto, where I started this trip in late May, I was spoken
>>about by one youth to another with the words "hes an idiot", to which
the
>>other replied, laughing sympathetically, "good luck to him".
>>
>>A couple of days later I went to Montreal and stayed at the YMCA
>>downtown. As you can guess (this is all so predictable, isnt it?) MI5
>>followed me there and bugged my room at the YMCA. Not only that, but
they
>>managed to set-up an instance of "newscaster reaction" from a local
>>television station; while I was watching a Vermont TV news programme on
>>the set in my room, the woman reporter said, "well theyre just tired and
>>they want to go home", which sounds like a pretty unprofessional thing
to
>>say until you realise she was trying to say of me that I was the one
that
>>was supposed to be tired, and they (ie MI5) wanted me to go home to the
>>UK.
>>
>>On the bus journey across the North American continent, it was quite
clear
>>that MI5 were following me every step on the way. For the first part of
>>the journey they actually put someone on the bus with me, a youth who
said
>>at me "that guys paranoid" and tried to incite other passengers to
attack
>>me. I stopped for a couple of days in Winnipeg in central Canada, and on
>>leaving the town heard on the radio a female presenter ranting about
>>"insanity! insanity!". It is very tiring travelling such a long distance
>>by bus; I took the journey in two steps, each of about 36 hours; and it
is
>>especially tiring when you know MI5 are watching you and harassing you
>>every step of the way.
>>
>>When I finally got to Vancouver, MI5 instituted the usual harassment, in
>>very short order. I was surprised how quickly they were able to induce
>>hatred towards me in elements of the general populace; the Security
>>Service must have employed a number of agents and serious resources in a
>>very short period of time; and for no real gain, because I havent been
>>back to BC for almost five years, so all their "work" appears to be for
>>nothing. In downtown Vancouver a street person said in front of me,
>>"theyre all talking about him". For a few days I was staying at Pauls
>>Guest House (345 W.14th Ave); on the day I left, the owner Paul shouted
at
>>no-one in particular, "hes going to Victoria" - which was quite
accurate,
>>I was indeed going to the provincial capital Victoria on Vancouver
>>Island. But I had not told anyone at the guest house where I was going;
I
>>had only mentioned to my parents back in England on the phone that I was
>>going away from Vancouver for a few days. Which leads me to suppose that
>>MI5s bugging of the phone in my parents house yielded the
>>"intelligence" that I intended to visit Victoria, and they had passed
the
>>information on to Paul.
>>
>>When I got to Victoria it was again obvious that the persecutors were
>>"doing their stuff" there as well. On the street I was identified as
being
>>English, although I had not said anything so my accent hadnt given me
>>away; and returning by ferry to the mainland, I was abused by a Canadian
>>woman who said, "hes a nutter! you can run but you cant hide". During my
>>years in Canada I have never heard the word "nutter" on any other
>>occasion; I do not think it is part of Canadians vocabulary; so the
>>Canadian woman on the ferry, who was obviously talking about me, must
have
>>been supplied with this word by the English persecutors. And once I got
>>back to Vancouver, staying at the Austin Hotel on Granville St, I
listened
>>to a conversation in the apartment block directly opposite, and a man
>>saying, "hes paranoid, so thats as bad as it can be, so why are they
doing
>>this to him?".
>>
>>Holiday in the States, August 1995
>>
>>By 1995 I was living in Canada, and in August I went down the eastern
>>seaboard to Florida and as far as Key West by car. As you can guess
(this
>>is all so boring and predictable, isnt it?) MI5 followed me every step
of
>>the way. I can see in retrospect that this must have been quite easy for
>>them as they had my car bugged, both on the inside to listen to anything
>>that was said and what radio station I was listening to, as well as what
>>must have been a tracker device installed to track it across long
>>distances.
>>
>>The first city I visited was Philadelphia. In the old Congress Hall
where
>>the first US Congress assembled, the woman guide started referring to my
>>situation, saying that "all these people in Europe were watching it",
and
>>they were "a little paranoid" at this 18th-century experiment in
>>democracy. Also I had recently written a newsgroup post where Id
described
>>a (female) poster as "wet-nosed" (implying "canine"), and a young girl
in
>>Philadelphia remarked, "so he thinks were dogs?" There were two or three
>>more incidents during this holiday in the eastern States, including a
>>radio station down near Miami, showing "they" had tracked me all the way
>>there, and were bugging the inside of my car; but I didnt record the
>>details and Ive forgotten some of it now. Also down in Miami Beach a
>>French tourist in a lift expressed support for me with the words, "cest
>>incroyable" ie. its incredible, meaning that MI5s well-known actions
>>against me were beyond belief.
>>
>>To go back a bit, in about May/June 1995 Id visited New York, again by
>>car, and was insulted several times by people using the same words that
>>had been used against me in England. In Central Park, and elderly
>>Englishman (not a real gentleman - but then the Engish view of
themselves
>>as "gentlemen" etc is quite laughable) looked at me and said "idiot".
And
>>while I was eating in a streetside restaurant a New York youth started
>>laughing and said something like, "I cant believe it, hes actually here"
-
>>I think that was because I had had an expressed wish to visit New York
for
>>some years before this, although after this visit I wont be going there
>>again for a very long time.
>>
>>Visit to Poland December 1995/January 1996
>>
>>In December 1995 I flew (BA again, unfortunately - every time Ive flown
BA
>>one of these incidents has happened, presumably MI5 is happier setting
up
>>harassment on British-domiciled carrier) from Montreal to Berlin and
>>travelled on to Poland to visit family. MI5 naturally harassed me in
>>Poland during my brief stay. They followed me around and got Polish
people
>>to take part in the harassment. In one case two Polish youths talked in
>>front of me saying in English (with marked Polish accents), "fucked up
>>men, fuck you". There were also other incidents which I dont remember
too
>>clearly since it was some time ago.
>>
>>The return flight connected through Heathrow, and in the transit lounge
>>MI5 again set-up harassment against me. In Poland they were talking
their
>>abuse in English, and in London they set Polish people after me to speak
>>in Polish; they heard me on the phone to my father, and said "a wiesz ze
>>to Polski wariat", in an almost sympathetic, inclusive fashion
>>(translation. "you know hes a Polish nutter"). Once on the flight to
>>Montreal I was again set upon by two English youths, one of whom spoke
and
>>the other listened. The aggressive "fat bastard" youth said, "if he
wants
>>to be a wanker" (its my fault theyre harassing me, you see),
>>self-justification that "hes a nutter" (so we have to keep on abusing
him,
>>because hes ill), as well as talking about the town in Poland where I
had
>>been staying. He also said, "he doesnt know who we are", but as already
>>remarked in a previous article, that was at best a half-denial of my
guess
>>expressed in internet newsgroups that the people after me were MI5 - if
>>anything its a half-confirmation rather than a half-denial.
>>
>>These incidents are still going on. You can hear digitised audio files
of
>>abuse on a BA flight to Berlin in 1998 on the Web at address
>>
>>On this flight they were again attacking my mental health; "paranoid,
hes
>>paranoid" and "nutter" are discernable. The last "during travel" contact
>>was at Ottawa Airport on 21 July 1998, when "Alan Holdsworth" the
>>psychopath MI5 agent, dressed as a vagrant, was pacing aggressively in
the
>>departure area. In three weeks I will again be travelling to Europe; we
>>will see what fresh acts of molestation MI5 perpetrate during this trip.
>>
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