On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:01:57 -0600, "Victor Velazquez"
<k-canute@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>On Dec 13, 2:45 am, Seggnyalo <tis...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> On 2007-11-29 17:47:59 -0800, web...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Ubiquitous) said:
>>
>> > It is simply breathtaking to watch the glee and abandon with which
>> > the liberal media and the Angry Left have been attempting to turn
>> > our military victory in Iraq into a second Vietnam quagmire. Too bad
>> > for them, it's failing.
>>
>> You forgot to put quotes around "victory" there. You also forgot to
>> update your .sig with the latest talking points about two years ago, it
>> seems.
>
>I know it's fun piling on the neocons but please try not to fall into his
>"trap." Iraq was a very definite *military* victory. It hasn't been any
>other kind of victory but then he isn't claiming that it is.
>
>By attacking the one fact that is in Ubi's posts, you actually help make
his
>case by playing the part of the "Angry Left" ignoring the military
victory
>in favor of the political, social, cultural, and economic debacle (enough
>fodder there for debate, wouldn't ya think?). If you don't stop doing
this,
>how's he ever supposed to get it?
There's no military victory without political victory and vice-versa
(to make things worse-a.)
-- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.


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