On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 05:15:33 -0700, Vox <Vectra3456@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>Kittyn wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 23:29:08 -0400, Dana <danambusa@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Kittyn wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 05:54:23 -0700, Vox <Vectra3456@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Ruby Vee wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 2008-04-13 19:52:14 -0400, "Laura M. Young"
<bridgeplayer60@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>>said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I just rewatched Friday's episode, mostly to see the Diane and Max
scenes
>>>>>>>again, but I was also struck by how many people are berating
>>>>>>>themselves for
>>>>>>>being responsible for Michael's condition. It occurred to me that
>>>>>>>most of
>>>>>>>the people in this town can rightfully be accused of doing, or not
doing,
>>>>>>>something that would have prevented this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>1. In my opinion, the blame goes first and foremost to Claudia who
>>>>>>>put out
>>>>>>>the hit that sent a man with a rifle shooting in the direction of
>>>>>>>Michael.
>>>>>>>2. Would be Dr. Evil who actually fired the shot that did NOT hit
his
>>>>>>>intended target and wound up hitting Michael instead.
>>>>>>>3. Sonny, of course, who after torturing Michael's biological
father
>>>>>>>into
>>>>>>>signing away his parental rights, has refused to get out of his
>>>>>>>"business"
>>>>>>>for years, despite he and people he loved nearly being killed time
and
>>>>>>>again
>>>>>>>by attempts on his life.
>>>>>>>4. Carly, who cheated on Michael's father (her husband), and had
>>>>>>>unprotected *** with a man she didn't even like who was a known
>>>>>>>mobster, and
>>>>>>>then conspired with him to get Michael away from his dad and
allowed
>>>>>>>Sonny
>>>>>>>to adopt Michael despite knowing what Sonny was, and then going
back
>>>>>>>to him
>>>>>>>time and time again even though she saw repeatedly what danger her
>>>>>>>kids were
>>>>>>>in because of him.
>>>>>>>5. Jason, who was Michael's first "father" and swears that he
adores the
>>>>>>>kid, but not enough to get out of the "business" and encourage
Sonny
>>>>>>>to do
>>>>>>>so too to keep the kid (s) safe.
>>>>>>>6 & 7. Alexis shares Diane's guilt in repeatedly keeping Sonny out
of
>>>>>>>jail
>>>>>>>where he wouldn't have been a threat to his children.
>>>>>>>8. Max, who was the professional bodyguard, who should have
insisted
>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>Michael not go anywhere without protection.
>>>>>>>9. Kate, who encouraged Sonny to take Michael to see what his
>>>>>>>"non-mobster"
>>>>>>>dad did for a living. (I've forgotten whose idea it was initially.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'd put Kate number three on that list -- it was her idea for
Michael to
>>>>>>be there in the first place, and she talked Sonny into it when he
didn't
>>>>>>think it was a good idea. Turns out he was right. Interestingly
>>>>>>enough, she and Devlin are the only two people involved who aren't
>>>>>>blaming themselves for the disaster!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>15 -18. + AJ, Alan, Monica, Edward and the rest of the
>>>>>>>Quartermaines, for
>>>>>>>not using all their money and power to maintain joint custody of
Michael
>>>>>>>which would have gotten him out of the hands of Sonny and his
mobster
>>>>>>>friends at least part of the time (the night he was shot MIGHT have
>>>>>>>been one
>>>>>>>of those times)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm sure I'm forgetting others who could get on this game too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ruby
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The BLAME goes first to Carly for tying her son up to a mobster!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Vox
>>>>
>>>>Actually, if you want to go that route, then Robin is ultimately
>>>>responsible also. Because if she had never betrayed Jason's
>>>>confidence, Jason would have continued to be Michael's public father,
>>>>Carly would never have married AJ and probably never would have slept
>>>>with Sonny. If Jason was still Michael's "father", you can be damn
>>>>sure that he would never have taken Michael someplace dangerous
>>>>without protection and would have definitely protected his son first
>>>>and foremost before he jumped on a woman he was dating.
>>>
>>>I don't agree. If Robin had kept her mouth shut, Michael would have
>>>still been raised in the mob which is Vox's point.
>>
>>
>> Maybe....or maybe not. Perhaps if Jason had a child that he was
>> raising as his own, he would have eventually realized that it was best
>> for him to distance himself from that life. At that time, he was
>> close to Sonny, but was not as deeply entrenched as he is now. We
>> will never know, because Robin betrayed his trust. I am not saying
>> she is as guilty as some of the others, but she defintely belongs on
>> the list.
>>
>
>
>Cripes! He has a child NOW!! I was thinking the other day, if his son
>meant so much to him, why doesn't he take his millions, go find an
>island and try to live his life with Liz and his son! He clearly picks
>his ****y life over all of it!!
>
>I sup****ted Robin telling the truth anyway. I don't even see how Robin
>comes into the mix even though you tried to sup****t your theory. It
>fell totally flat for me. The thought that Jason would be a better
>protector of a child than Sonny? Please.
>
>Vox
You are obviously not going to see reason here, since you felt it was
right for Robin to betray the confidence of Jason.
And yes, I think that Jason would have been a better protector of a
child than Sonny. He has always shown more reason. He would never
have taken a child somewhere dangerous without protection just to
prove a point.
Also, insofar in the fact that he is a father now, he has been trying
to protect that child by staying away from him. He is, of course,
torn, since it is his child. Sure, he and Liz coulc disappear, but he
feels he has other responsibilities now, such as Michael and Morgan.
At the time when Michael was a baby, he had no other responsibilities.
He already showed that he was willing to walk away for a while.
Also, I firmly believe that right now, if the paternity was exposed
and he felt there was a direct threat to Jake, such as a threat,
either direct or implied, he would go to the ends of the earth to
protect that child, including taking Liz and the boys far away. At
this time, however, he probably thinks that the best way to keep Jake
safe is for him not to be the father. He is probably right, although
on soaps, you know that eventually someone who shouldn't will find out
about Jake's paternity.
I stand by my statement. Robin belongs on that list. She betrayed
the confidence of a man that she supposedly loved and quite honesrly
not because she felt it was the right thing to do, because if that was
the case, she never would have agreed to keep the secret in the first
place. She was all for keeping the secret when Carly wasn't around.
She spilled because she was jealous and comforted herself with the
fact that it was the right thing to do because a father deserves to be
with his child.
I almost choked when she was saying this to Sonny the other day. I am
surprised she could say that with a straight face.
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