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> > Kittyn wrote:
> >> On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 05:54:23 -0700, Vox <Vectra3...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>>Ruby Vee wrote:
>
> >>>>On 2008-04-13 19:52:14 -0400, "Laura M. Young"
> >>>><bridgeplaye...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>>>said:
>
> >>>>>I just rewatched Friday's episode, mostly to see the Diane and Max
> >>>>>scenes
> >>>>>again, but I was also struck by how many people are berating
> >>>>>themselves
> >>>>>for
> >>>>>being responsible for Michael's condition. ?It occurred to me that
> >>>>>most
> >>>>>of
> >>>>>the people in this town can rightfully be accused of doing, or not
> >>>>>doing,
> >>>>>something that would have prevented this.
>
> >>>>>1. ?In my opinion, the blame goes first and foremost to Claudia who
> >>>>>put
> >>>>>out
> >>>>>the hit that sent a man with a rifle shooting in the direction of
> >>>>>Michael.
> >>>>>2. ?Would be Dr. Evil who actually fired the shot that did NOT hit
> >>>>>his
> >>>>>intended target and wound up hitting Michael instead.
> >>>>>3. ?Sonny, of course, who after torturing Michael's biological
father
> >>>>>into
> >>>>>signing away his parental rights, has refused to get out of his
> >>>>>"business"
> >>>>>for years, despite he and people he loved nearly being killed time
> >>>>>and
> >>>>>again
> >>>>>by attempts on his life.
> >>>>>4. ?Carly, who cheated on Michael's father (her husband), and had
> >>>>>unprotected *** with a man she didn't even like who was a known
> >>>>>mobster, and
> >>>>>then conspired with him to get Michael away from his dad and
allowed
> >>>>>Sonny
> >>>>>to adopt Michael despite knowing what Sonny was, and then going
back
> >>>>>to
> >>>>>him
> >>>>>time and time again even though she saw repeatedly what danger her
> >>>>>kids
> >>>>>were
> >>>>>in because of him.
> >>>>>5. ?Jason, who was Michael's first "father" and swears that he
adores
> >>>>>the
> >>>>>kid, but not enough to get out of the "business" and encourage
Sonny
> >>>>>to
> >>>>>do
> >>>>>so too to keep the kid (s) safe.
> >>>>>6 & 7. ?Alexis shares Diane's guilt in repeatedly keeping Sonny out
> >>>>>of
> >>>>>jail
> >>>>>where he wouldn't have been a threat to his children.
> >>>>>8. ?Max, who was the professional bodyguard, who should have
insisted
> >>>>>that
> >>>>>Michael not go anywhere without protection.
> >>>>>9. ?Kate, who encouraged Sonny to take Michael to see what his
> >>>>>"non-mobster"
> >>>>>dad did for a living. (I've forgotten whose idea it was initially.)
>
> >>>>I'd put Kate number three on that list -- it was her idea for
Michael
> >>>>to
> >>>>be there in the first place, and she talked Sonny into it when he
> >>>>didn't
> >>>>think it was a good idea. ?Turns out he was right. ?Interestingly
> >>>>enough, she and Devlin are the only two people involved who aren't
> >>>>blaming themselves for the disaster!
>
> >>>>>15 -18. + ?AJ, Alan, ?Monica, Edward and the rest of the
> >>>>>Quartermaines,
> >>>>>for
> >>>>>not using all their money and power to maintain joint custody of
> >>>>>Michael
> >>>>>which would have gotten him out of the hands of Sonny and his
mobster
> >>>>>friends at least part of the time (the night he was shot MIGHT have
> >>>>>been one
> >>>>>of those times)
>
> >>>>>I'm sure I'm forgetting others who could get on this game too.
>
> >>>>Ruby
>
> >>>The BLAME goes first to Carly for tying her son up to a mobster!!
> >>>That's
> >>>FIRST on this stupid "too much time on your hands" list.
>
> >>>Vox
>
> >> Actually, if you want to go that route, then Robin is ultimately
> >> responsible also. ?Because if she had never betrayed Jason's
> >> confidence, Jason would have continued to be Michael's public father,
> >> Carly would never have married AJ and probably never would have slept
> >> with Sonny. ?If Jason was still Michael's "father", you can be damn
> >> sure that he would never have taken Michael someplace dangerous
> >> without protection and would have definitely protected his son first
> >> and foremost before he jumped on a woman he was dating.
>
> > Those are just assumptions. ?Jason wouldn't be any more of a safer
> > "father" than Sonny because he is a...hello?...MOBSTER, hitman and
> > murderer. ?Yes, I'd choose that over Sonny anyday. ?<sigh>
>
> > It's on Carly to protect her children from harm's way initially. ?In
> > fact,
> > I am on the bandwagaon that if a woman has small children and ends up
> > divorced or widowed, she needs to make the children her priority and
put
> > off her dating life and remarriages until after the children are
raised
> > and grown.
>
> > Vox
>
> Why that's just the goofiest thing I've ever heard...
>
> Why should a woman deprive herself or her children of a male influence,
> especially a good one? Sure women make bad choices all the time---but
> there
> are some really decent step-parents out there. Talk about an argument
> fallen
> flat.
>
> Damn good thing my mother didn't subscribe to "your bandwagon".
>
> Sheesh...
>
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I have to agree. I could've raised my kids on my own. But without
skills when my husband died, I would've had to take a menial job and
live in a low-rent neighborhood. My kids would've suffered no matter
how hard I tried. I could've done it. But thank god I met and married
a wonderful man who is and always has been a steller father. Raising
kids is hard enough with two people doing it together. Choosing the
single parent route may be right for some folks but I'm glad I didn't
take that way. And both my husbands grew up in *Beaver Cleaver*
households, raised by their moms and their stepfathers. And nobody,
then or now, uses the word *step* either!
PJ
I wouldn't trade my dad and younger brother for anything. My mom would
have
had to live with her parents, my grandmother wouldn't have gotten
re-married
after my grandfather's death and we would have been deprived not only of a
grandfather, father and brother, but a decent living and great schools.
Like I said, it's an idiotic bandwagon and I'm certainly glad my mother
knew
better than to try that martyr crap.
LauraH
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