On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:22:45 -0700, Vox <Vectra3456@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>Kittyn wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 05:52:41 -0700, Vox <Vectra3456@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Ruby Vee wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2008-04-27 08:35:42 -0400, Vox <Vectra3456@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>You can not be sure what kind of a father someone is going to be
>>>>>unless you give them the chance. No one KNEW AJ would be a bad
>>>>>father...they just assumed it. And given the choice between someone
>>>>>with problems and a MOBSTER, I'd take my chances with the nutter. AJ
>>>>>at least needed the op****tunity to try because it was HIS SON, for
>>>>>crying out loud.
>>>>>
>>>>>They all blew it as far as I am concerned but AJ morally should have
>>>>>been allowed the op****tunity and Robin came forth, fortunately, with
>>>>>the truth.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>While it is true that no one knows for sure what they (or someone
else)
>>>>will do in a situation until they're IN the situation, AJ had stated
>>>>flat out that if Michael were HIS child, he'd take him away from his
>>>>mother. In that situation, I believe that after carrying the child
for
>>>>9 months, Carly had every right to keep Michael's paternity from AJ.
>>>>
>>>>Ruby (And at that time, I HATED Carly and LOVED Robin!)
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>....and so the eternal debate continues......
>>>
>>>Nope. A person, in my world, always has the right to know. It's pretty
>>>hard to "take a child away" from it's mother. That threat isn't a good
>>>enough reason to withhold the information.
>>>
>>>Vox
>>
>>
>> Yet, everyone seemed to have sympathy for Alexis when she withheld the
>> information from Sonny.
>>
>> Bottom line is that it was not Robin's truth to tell. She only had
>> the information because Jason confided in her. Maybe I am alone here,
>> but I think if you love someone you hold something they have told you
>> in the strictest confidence, such as a confidence to a spouse or a
>> priest.
>>
>> And, as for it being hard to take a child away from its mother,
>> remember that we were not talking about the average couple. It was a
>> member of a very powerful family with unlimited resources and
>> connections trying to take a child away from a mother that had at the
>> very least a questionable past who didn't even know who the father of
>> her baby was without a DNA test. Don't you think that information
>> alone played a lot into her fears?
>>
>
>
>Sorry, but for me, everything you are saying is complete rubbish. For
>starters, I never had sympathy for Alexis for withhholding the
>information to Sonny. So right off the bat you are putting me in a box
>I didn't belong in.
>
I never said you specifically, because I didn't know your view of the
Alexis/Sonny situation. I just said that I have heard a lot of people
say that Alexis was right in wanting to keep it a secret.
What I am saying is no more rubbish that what you are saying. It is
all opinion. However, I am polite and at least listen to other
opinions without being rude.
>Secondly, if a "loved one" commits a moral or legal crime, it is not, in
>my world anyway, in***bant on me to keep the secret. In my world,
>things are out in the open and bad secrets aren't kept. But then I
>wouldn't be with anyone for whom secrets had to be kept.
>
If a loved one confided something to me that I felt I could not
morally keep quiet about, I would definitely at least tell them I
couldn't keep quiet upfront and ask that they be the one to confess so
I wouldn't have to say anything.
What I wouldn't do is keep quiet for a couple of years and then decide
to suddenly go behind their back and open my fat mouth. At the very
least, she could have told Jason that she could no longer keep his
secret and ask that he and Carly do it themselves. This could have
made a difference in the long run if AJ at least felt that Jason was
being upfront with him. Perhaps he wouldn't have cut Jason totally
out of the child's life if Jason had told him instead of Robin. After
keeping the secret all that time, she at least owed him a head's up
that she was suddenly doing an about face.
>And as far as your last paragraph goes...between Carly and the
>Quartermaines? Each is powerful so it could have goe either way. Of
>course it put fear into Carly that her son might be taken away but in
>those days especially, Carly was out for Carly. If you ask me, and no
>one did, but in my opinion Carly didn't take on this mother of the year
>role until years later.
>
>Vox
At the time, Carly was not at all powerful. She was afraid that she
would lose her child. She didn't want her child raised by what she
thought would be unfeeling relatives. She was afraid that AJ would
use the child to gain favor with his family, which he never denied and
actually made clear that he was willing to do.
No one is saying what she did was right. No one is saying that she
was the model parent. But most mothers would do anything to prevent
their child from being taken from them.
She obviously feared that AJ being revealed the father could
facilitate that and that is why she kept quiet. Jason obviously felt
that it was possible as well which is why he agreed to stay quiet.
Robin herself obviously didn't think it was that morally wrong when
Carly was out of the picture and the child was not even with one
biological parent. When Carly was back in the picture, she changed
her tune. A loyal person would have given Jason a head's up. She
showed that she was not loyal to someone she supposedly loved. That
is wrong in my book.
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