Kittyn wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:22:45 -0700, Vox <Vectra3456@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>>Kittyn wrote:
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>>>On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 05:52:41 -0700, Vox <Vectra3456@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>>>>Ruby Vee wrote:
>>>>
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>>>>>On 2008-04-27 08:35:42 -0400, Vox <Vectra3456@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said:
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>>You can not be sure what kind of a father someone is going to be
>>>>>>unless you give them the chance. No one KNEW AJ would be a bad
>>>>>>father...they just assumed it. And given the choice between someone
>>>>>>with problems and a MOBSTER, I'd take my chances with the nutter.
AJ
>>>>>>at least needed the op****tunity to try because it was HIS SON, for
>>>>>>crying out loud.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>They all blew it as far as I am concerned but AJ morally should have
>>>>>>been allowed the op****tunity and Robin came forth, fortunately, with
>>>>>>the truth.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>While it is true that no one knows for sure what they (or someone
else)
>>>>>will do in a situation until they're IN the situation, AJ had stated
>>>>>flat out that if Michael were HIS child, he'd take him away from his
>>>>>mother. In that situation, I believe that after carrying the child
for
>>>>>9 months, Carly had every right to keep Michael's paternity from AJ.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ruby (And at that time, I HATED Carly and LOVED Robin!)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>....and so the eternal debate continues......
>>>>
>>>>Nope. A person, in my world, always has the right to know. It's
pretty
>>>>hard to "take a child away" from it's mother. That threat isn't a
good
>>>>enough reason to withhold the information.
>>>>
>>>>Vox
>>>
>>>
>>>Yet, everyone seemed to have sympathy for Alexis when she withheld the
>>>information from Sonny.
>>>
>>>Bottom line is that it was not Robin's truth to tell. She only had
>>>the information because Jason confided in her. Maybe I am alone here,
>>>but I think if you love someone you hold something they have told you
>>>in the strictest confidence, such as a confidence to a spouse or a
>>>priest.
>>>
>>>And, as for it being hard to take a child away from its mother,
>>>remember that we were not talking about the average couple. It was a
>>>member of a very powerful family with unlimited resources and
>>>connections trying to take a child away from a mother that had at the
>>>very least a questionable past who didn't even know who the father of
>>>her baby was without a DNA test. Don't you think that information
>>>alone played a lot into her fears?
>>>
>>
>>
>>Sorry, but for me, everything you are saying is complete rubbish. For
>>starters, I never had sympathy for Alexis for withhholding the
>>information to Sonny. So right off the bat you are putting me in a box
>>I didn't belong in.
>>
>
> I never said you specifically, because I didn't know your view of the
> Alexis/Sonny situation. I just said that I have heard a lot of people
> say that Alexis was right in wanting to keep it a secret.
>
> What I am saying is no more rubbish that what you are saying. It is
> all opinion. However, I am polite and at least listen to other
> opinions without being rude.
>
>
>
>>Secondly, if a "loved one" commits a moral or legal crime, it is not, in
>>my world anyway, in***bant on me to keep the secret. In my world,
>>things are out in the open and bad secrets aren't kept. But then I
>>wouldn't be with anyone for whom secrets had to be kept.
>>
>
> If a loved one confided something to me that I felt I could not
> morally keep quiet about, I would definitely at least tell them I
> couldn't keep quiet upfront and ask that they be the one to confess so
> I wouldn't have to say anything.
>
> What I wouldn't do is keep quiet for a couple of years and then decide
> to suddenly go behind their back and open my fat mouth. At the very
> least, she could have told Jason that she could no longer keep his
> secret and ask that he and Carly do it themselves. This could have
> made a difference in the long run if AJ at least felt that Jason was
> being upfront with him. Perhaps he wouldn't have cut Jason totally
> out of the child's life if Jason had told him instead of Robin. After
> keeping the secret all that time, she at least owed him a head's up
> that she was suddenly doing an about face.
>
>
>
>>And as far as your last paragraph goes...between Carly and the
>>Quartermaines? Each is powerful so it could have goe either way. Of
>>course it put fear into Carly that her son might be taken away but in
>>those days especially, Carly was out for Carly. If you ask me, and no
>>one did, but in my opinion Carly didn't take on this mother of the year
>>role until years later.
>>
>>Vox
>
>
> At the time, Carly was not at all powerful. She was afraid that she
> would lose her child. She didn't want her child raised by what she
> thought would be unfeeling relatives. She was afraid that AJ would
> use the child to gain favor with his family, which he never denied and
> actually made clear that he was willing to do.
>
> No one is saying what she did was right. No one is saying that she
> was the model parent. But most mothers would do anything to prevent
> their child from being taken from them.
>
> She obviously feared that AJ being revealed the father could
> facilitate that and that is why she kept quiet. Jason obviously felt
> that it was possible as well which is why he agreed to stay quiet.
> Robin herself obviously didn't think it was that morally wrong when
> Carly was out of the picture and the child was not even with one
> biological parent. When Carly was back in the picture, she changed
> her tune. A loyal person would have given Jason a head's up. She
> showed that she was not loyal to someone she supposedly loved. That
> is wrong in my book.
>
Again, just my OPINION, but I don't believe if someone truly loves you,
you should ask them to keep morally wrong secrets. I would agree that
the best choice for Robin to have made would be to ask Carly and Jason
to tell the truth...however, I believe she did that. I don't recall the
situation perfectly but perhaps some of you have tapes you keep watching
over and over of this grand infraction in the world of soaps.
And I don't think Carly gave a hoot about Michael back then...it was
more about the power struggle.
Vox
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