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Re: Strike

by Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Nov 6, 2007 at 10:52 AM

In article <47309d41$0$25641$4c368faf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 "Nicole Massey" <nyyki@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:ANIM8Rfsk-9F0B35.17244405112007@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > In article <472fade7$0$32494$4c368faf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > "Nicole Massey" <nyyki@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> >> "windowwasher" <windowwasher@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >> news:0uNXi.20367$B25.5362@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >
> >> > "William George Ferguson" <wmgfrgsn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >> > news:ok3vi3thhno9of6uv6l1cn5vqhltk9doks@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:26:43 GMT, "windowwasher"
> >> >> <windowwasher@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>"Rob Jensen" <ShutUpRob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >> >>>news:vlvui39i396t7ehbmh3eh1472gteuco597@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >>
> >> >>>> However, movies have *much* longer lead times than TV shows do, 
> >> >>>> which
> >> >>>> is why X-Files 2 remains unaffected.  The script was complete,
so 
> >> >>>> they
> >> >>>> can film it, conversely, the turnover time for television
scripts is
> >> >>>> so quick that most shows have only 2-3 more episodes to film
before
> >> >>>> they run out of scripts, but they've also already finished
shooting
> >> >>>> around 3 episodes yet to air besides the 2-3 more that they can 
> >> >>>> shoot,
> >> >>>> so most series are going to have another 5-6 episodes air before
the
> >> >>>> strike imposes a hiatus due to lack of scripts.  Fortunately,
the
> >> >>>> timing coincides more or less with regular winter hiatus anyway,
so
> >> >>>> while TV hasn't been able to bank hardly any scripts, the truth
of 
> >> >>>> the
> >> >>>> matter is that the filming schedule won't really be disrupted
until
> >> >>>> the cast & crew would normally come back after winter hiatus to 
> >> >>>> start
> >> >>>> filming new episodes that won't have been written.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>
> >> >>>Aren't scripts often rewritten as shooting commences/occurs?
What's 
> >> >>>the
> >> >>>effect of the strike on rewrites/edits?
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> The DGA contract requires that scripts be made available to the 
> >> >> director
> >> >> a
> >> >> minimum of two weeks before the episode is to be start shooting
(to 
> >> >> give
> >> >> the director prep time).  The guild actually cracked down on the
worst
> >> >> offenders of that (including the West Wing) a couple of years ago.
> >> >>
> >> >> Rewrites are WGA work, and so are out, edits (prior to or while 
> >> >> shooting)
> >> >> are director work  (or editors work after shooting) and so are
still 
> >> >> in
> >> >> (just because a writer wrote some dialogue doesn't mean the actor
has 
> >> >> to
> >> >> say it).
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> -- 
> >> >> "Oh Buffy, you really do need to have
> >> >> every square inch of your ass kicked."
> >> >>  - Willow Rosenberg
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for the info.
> >>
> >> WGA provides for script fine tuning during a strike as well.
Basically, 
> >> if
> >> it was finished before the strike the writer can work on it and get
paid 
> >> for
> >> that work, but if it wasn't finished before the strike hit then any
> >> subsequent work on it is frozen until the strike is worked out.
> >>
> >> I suspect this strike was one of the reasons for the 6 episode 
> >> mini-season
> >> of Jericho, which is probably already written at this point.
> >>
> >> This strike is a big deal. The position the studios are taking
basically
> >> prevents writers from gaining revenue on new media forms, the
equivalent 
> >> to
> >> telling an auto worker that he won't get paid for building hybrids
but 
> >> only
> >> for doing gas guzzlers.
> >
> > Uh, no.  A better analogy would be that the auto worker only gets paid
> > when he builds the car the first time, but not when it's resold.  He
> > still gets paid for every single car.
> 
> Still not a good analogy. Let's say that he gets paid for every car as
long 
> as they're sold through a dealer****p, but doesn't get paid for cars sold

> direct to the consumer or through fleet sales. And for the analogy to
work, 
> you also have to add that people are increasingly starting to buy direct
and 
> bypass the dealer****ps.

Still not a good analogy.  They want additional money for the SAME car 
when it trades hands again, down the road, whether there's a profit 
involved or not.  They'd want money if you gave your old car to charity.  
Nobody's denying them money for any car; they still get paid for 
building it, and the first sale, and a lot of other resales.
> 
> On Demand and direct to DVD are going to become larger segments in the
next 
> few years, and under the current model writers will lose their ****rts 
> writing for those media. 

Nonsense.  

They get paid for writing the script, regardless of where it airs, 
regardless of if it airs, *now*
They get paid for direct to DVD *now*
We're talking extra residuals from potential later dispersal of product 
that might not even have money changing hands, and they want twice what 
they get on a DVD for that.

-- 
Jitterbug phone works!  (Third time's a charm!)
 




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Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-05 15:02:04 
Re: Strike
"windowwasher"   2007-11-05 21:26:43 
Re: Strike
William George Ferguson &  2007-11-05 14:49:06 
Re: Strike
"windowwasher"   2007-11-05 23:15:08 
Re: Strike
"Nicole Massey"  2007-11-05 17:55:55 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-05 17:24:44 
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Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-05 23:44:34 
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Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2007-11-06 08:09:48 
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Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-06 09:34:54 
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Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2007-11-06 10:41:42 
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Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2007-11-06 13:30:14 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-06 23:50:21 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-07 22:03:22 
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Tee Jay <terrynospamjo  2007-11-08 12:58:41 
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Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-08 15:20:57 
Re: Strike
Natalie Teeger <Send t  2007-11-06 10:39:46 
Re: Strike
"Nicole Massey"  2007-11-06 10:57:02 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-06 10:52:33 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-06 13:56:21 
Re: Strike
"Patrick Joseph Mc N  2007-11-06 15:20:42 
Re: Strike
"Nicole Massey"  2007-11-06 14:02:44 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-06 15:29:49 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-07 00:35:02 
Re: Strike
Ian Galbraith <me@[EMA  2007-11-07 22:23:31 
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Hank Gillette <hankgil  2007-11-07 12:29:29 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-07 13:48:04 
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Hank Gillette <hankgil  2007-11-07 23:19:46 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-07 22:09:38 
Re: Strike
jayembee <jayembeenosp  2007-11-06 20:22:30 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-07 00:01:04 
Re: Strike
jayembee <jayembeenosp  2007-11-06 23:55:34 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-07 02:46:53 
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jayembee <jayembeenosp  2007-11-07 07:06:04 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-07 13:54:09 
Re: Strike
jayembee <jayembeenosp  2007-11-07 21:36:03 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-07 16:36:25 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-08 06:54:30 
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jayembee <jayembeenosp  2007-11-08 06:10:24 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-08 00:43:30 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-09 03:04:03 
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deering <deering24@[EM  2007-11-10 01:11:03 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-10 07:59:40 
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Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-11 11:53:39 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-07 22:05:53 
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jayembee <jayembeenosp  2007-11-07 21:41:00 
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"Default User"   2007-11-07 17:56:41 
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Invid Fan <invid@[EMAI  2007-11-06 17:59:35 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-07 00:31:09 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-06 17:49:13 
Residuals Versus Royalties (Was Re: Strike)
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-07 01:07:24 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-07 21:39:01 
Re: Residuals Versus Royalties (Was Re: Strike)
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-07 22:39:51 
Re: Residuals Versus Royalties (Was Re: Strike)
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-08 06:47:04 
Re: Residuals Versus Royalties (Was Re: Strike)
jayembee <jayembeenosp  2007-11-08 06:19:29 
Re: Residuals Versus Royalties (Was Re: Strike)
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-09 03:09:08 
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Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-07 03:51:45 
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Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2007-11-07 06:33:20 
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Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-07 14:08:15 
Re: Strike
Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2007-11-07 15:47:28 
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Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-07 22:39:51 
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Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2007-11-08 07:49:39 
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Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-08 08:23:14 
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Wayne Brown <fwbrown@[  2007-11-08 15:19:43 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-09 03:06:16 
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Paul Bearer <Don't Bot  2007-11-09 10:13:22 
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Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2007-11-09 10:37:38 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-09 16:50:14 
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Kerry Weaver <Don't bo  2007-11-09 12:57:34 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-10 00:01:45 
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Kerry Weaver <Don't bo  2007-11-09 19:37:52 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-10 17:17:09 
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Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-10 00:10:04 
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Kerry Weaver <Don't bo  2007-11-10 11:17:50 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-10 17:27:04 
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Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-14 13:43:19 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-15 00:51:23 
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Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-10 00:10:04 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-10 17:23:33 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-10 15:50:46 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-10 23:55:53 
Re: Strike
Kerry Weaver <Don't bo  2007-11-10 11:23:30 
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Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2007-11-10 11:51:02 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-10 10:23:57 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-07 22:06:35 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-05 23:44:34 
Re: Strike
Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2007-11-06 08:06:44 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-05 23:44:34 
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Cory <my_wheel_life@[E  2007-11-14 06:20:21 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-14 07:13:49 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-14 11:14:37 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-14 20:31:14 
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wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-11-14 23:04:37 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-14 21:32:46 
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wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-11-14 23:39:22 
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jayembee <jayembeenosp  2007-11-15 04:47:49 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-15 02:13:09 
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Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2007-11-15 08:30:07 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-15 08:17:15 
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Cory <my_wheel_life@[E  2007-11-15 04:54:22 
Re: Strike
"Patrick Joseph Mc N  2007-11-15 09:38:50 
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Cory <my_wheel_life@[E  2007-11-15 10:09:00 
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Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-15 12:40:49 
Re: Strike
Cory <my_wheel_life@[E  2007-11-15 13:03:55 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-15 08:07:42 
Re: Strike
Larc <larc-news@[EMAIL  2007-11-15 11:47:45 
Re: Strike
David Johnston <david@  2007-11-15 18:34:08 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-14 20:23:24 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-15 02:13:09 
Re: Strike
Cory <my_wheel_life@[E  2007-11-15 04:53:11 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-15 08:08:12 
Re: Strike
Cory <my_wheel_life@[E  2007-11-15 10:02:48 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-15 09:43:28 
Re: Strike
wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-11-18 23:55:19 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-19 19:34:43 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-15 12:40:49 
Re: Strike
Jim_*_ <ohyeah@[EMAIL   2007-11-15 19:46:14 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-15 20:42:24 

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