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Re: Strike

by Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Nov 6, 2007 at 12:01 PM

On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:41:42 -0500, Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:

>In article <en01j3lj8ea51051vf7kj41nk827av9m2s@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> No, it isn't.  Regarding DVD (and digital/streaming) residuals, they'd
>> be getting royalties on new copies of the product every time.
>> Syndication is not used cars, it's the same model year as the current
>> year, DVD sales are new product, streaming/downloading is always,
>> every single time new product.
>    Yes it is. Isn't new copies of THEIR product which is the writing 
>that went into the original TV show, movie or whatever. The autoworker 
>makes the cars that is THEIR product. So, if the automakers got a cut of 
>the same car sold multiple times, then the worker could get a cut of the 
>downstream revenues, assuming contract language. 
>
>
>
>> The only time that used product is involved is DVDs that are traded
>> into Hastings and other chains that deal in trading of used product
>> and no one in Hollywood gets a share of that because, yes, those are
>> the ONLY used cars as far as your otherwise terrible, hideously
>> straw-man analogy goes.
>
>       See above for the reasons it isn't..

Authors get royalties on every *new* copy of every book that is sold
in a bookstore, regardless of printing number.  In that respect,
syndication is another edition -- paperback to the original airings'
hardcover and each successive rerun cycle on television is a new
printing of each episode.  Similarly, DVD is another format of
transmission of new editions of the product, same as
books-on-tape/books on CD, as are downloading and streaming -- they
are ALL new printings of the same product, not used editions.

Meanwhile, your auto analogy breaks down due to the sheer number of
people involved in auto manufacturing -- their royalties are their
pension funds and bonuses, both of which the auto manufacturers (and
similarly, the airlines) have so gutted in an Enron-like way that they
have handed off the pension funds to the US Government.

Your analogy of writing with auto manufacturing is essentially
comparing apples and corn flakes.  Both are gathered by people, both
are delivered by people and both are consumed by people.  Pay scales
are totally different due to fundamental, irreconcilable differences
in the products.

  -- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.  
It never works.  I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work 
and what I could've done differently.  I'm analyzing all my shortcomings 
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan 
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent 
victim of my own stupid plans.  God, I need some coffee.
 




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Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-05 15:02:04 
Re: Strike
"windowwasher"   2007-11-05 21:26:43 
Re: Strike
William George Ferguson &  2007-11-05 14:49:06 
Re: Strike
"windowwasher"   2007-11-05 23:15:08 
Re: Strike
"Nicole Massey"  2007-11-05 17:55:55 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-05 17:24:44 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-05 23:44:34 
Re: Strike
Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2007-11-06 08:09:48 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-06 09:34:54 
Re: Strike
Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2007-11-06 10:41:42 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-06 12:01:48 
Re: Strike
Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2007-11-06 13:30:14 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-06 23:50:21 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-07 01:19:09 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-07 22:03:22 
Re: Strike
Hank Gillette <hankgil  2007-11-07 12:25:35 
Re: Strike
Tee Jay <terrynospamjo  2007-11-08 12:58:41 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-08 15:20:57 
Re: Strike
Natalie Teeger <Send t  2007-11-06 10:39:46 
Re: Strike
"Nicole Massey"  2007-11-06 10:57:02 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-06 10:52:33 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-06 13:56:21 
Re: Strike
"Patrick Joseph Mc N  2007-11-06 15:20:42 
Re: Strike
"Nicole Massey"  2007-11-06 14:02:44 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-06 15:29:49 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-07 00:35:02 
Re: Strike
Ian Galbraith <me@[EMA  2007-11-07 22:23:31 
Re: Strike
Hank Gillette <hankgil  2007-11-07 12:29:29 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-07 13:48:04 
Re: Strike
Hank Gillette <hankgil  2007-11-07 23:19:46 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-07 22:09:38 
Re: Strike
jayembee <jayembeenosp  2007-11-06 20:22:30 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-07 00:01:04 
Re: Strike
jayembee <jayembeenosp  2007-11-06 23:55:34 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-07 02:46:53 
Re: Strike
jayembee <jayembeenosp  2007-11-07 07:06:04 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-07 13:54:09 
Re: Strike
jayembee <jayembeenosp  2007-11-07 21:36:03 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-07 16:36:25 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-08 06:54:30 
Re: Strike
jayembee <jayembeenosp  2007-11-08 06:10:24 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-08 00:43:30 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-09 03:04:03 
Re: Strike
deering <deering24@[EM  2007-11-10 01:11:03 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-10 07:59:40 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-11 11:53:39 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-07 22:05:53 
Re: Strike
jayembee <jayembeenosp  2007-11-07 21:41:00 
Re: Strike
"Default User"   2007-11-07 17:56:41 
Re: Strike
Invid Fan <invid@[EMAI  2007-11-06 17:59:35 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-07 00:31:09 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-06 17:49:13 
Residuals Versus Royalties (Was Re: Strike)
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-07 01:07:24 
Re: Residuals Versus Royalties (Was Re: Strike)
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-07 21:39:01 
Re: Residuals Versus Royalties (Was Re: Strike)
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-07 22:39:51 
Re: Residuals Versus Royalties (Was Re: Strike)
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-08 06:47:04 
Re: Residuals Versus Royalties (Was Re: Strike)
jayembee <jayembeenosp  2007-11-08 06:19:29 
Re: Residuals Versus Royalties (Was Re: Strike)
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-09 03:09:08 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-07 03:51:45 
Re: Strike
Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2007-11-07 06:33:20 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-07 14:08:15 
Re: Strike
Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2007-11-07 15:47:28 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-07 22:39:51 
Re: Strike
Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2007-11-08 07:49:39 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-08 08:23:14 
Re: Strike
Wayne Brown <fwbrown@[  2007-11-08 15:19:43 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-09 03:06:16 
Re: Strike
Paul Bearer <Don't Bot  2007-11-09 10:13:22 
Re: Strike
Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2007-11-09 10:37:38 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-09 16:50:14 
Re: Strike
Kerry Weaver <Don't bo  2007-11-09 12:57:34 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-10 00:01:45 
Re: Strike
Kerry Weaver <Don't bo  2007-11-09 19:37:52 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-10 17:17:09 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-10 00:10:04 
Re: Strike
Kerry Weaver <Don't bo  2007-11-10 11:17:50 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-10 17:27:04 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-14 13:43:19 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-15 00:51:23 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-10 00:10:04 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-10 17:23:33 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-10 15:50:46 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-10 23:55:53 
Re: Strike
Kerry Weaver <Don't bo  2007-11-10 11:23:30 
Re: Strike
Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2007-11-10 11:51:02 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-10 10:23:57 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-07 22:06:35 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-05 23:44:34 
Re: Strike
Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2007-11-06 08:06:44 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-05 23:44:34 
Re: Strike
Cory <my_wheel_life@[E  2007-11-14 06:20:21 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-14 07:13:49 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-14 11:14:37 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-14 20:31:14 
Re: Strike
wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-11-14 23:04:37 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-14 21:32:46 
Re: Strike
wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-11-14 23:39:22 
Re: Strike
jayembee <jayembeenosp  2007-11-15 04:47:49 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-15 02:13:09 
Re: Strike
Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2007-11-15 08:30:07 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-15 08:17:15 
Re: Strike
Cory <my_wheel_life@[E  2007-11-15 04:54:22 
Re: Strike
"Patrick Joseph Mc N  2007-11-15 09:38:50 
Re: Strike
Cory <my_wheel_life@[E  2007-11-15 10:09:00 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-15 12:40:49 
Re: Strike
Cory <my_wheel_life@[E  2007-11-15 13:03:55 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-15 08:07:42 
Re: Strike
Larc <larc-news@[EMAIL  2007-11-15 11:47:45 
Re: Strike
David Johnston <david@  2007-11-15 18:34:08 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-14 20:23:24 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-15 02:13:09 
Re: Strike
Cory <my_wheel_life@[E  2007-11-15 04:53:11 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-15 08:08:12 
Re: Strike
Cory <my_wheel_life@[E  2007-11-15 10:02:48 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-15 09:43:28 
Re: Strike
wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-11-18 23:55:19 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-19 19:34:43 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-15 12:40:49 
Re: Strike
Jim_*_ <ohyeah@[EMAIL   2007-11-15 19:46:14 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-15 20:42:24 

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