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Re: Strike

by "Nicole Massey" <nyyki@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Nov 6, 2007 at 02:02 PM

"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8Rfsk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:ANIM8Rfsk-E9E385.10523306112007@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Still not a good analogy. Let's say that he gets paid for every car as 
>> long
>> as they're sold through a dealer****p, but doesn't get paid for cars
sold
>> direct to the consumer or through fleet sales. And for the analogy to 
>> work,
>> you also have to add that people are increasingly starting to buy
direct 
>> and
>> bypass the dealer****ps.
>
> Still not a good analogy.  They want additional money for the SAME car
> when it trades hands again, down the road, whether there's a profit
> involved or not.  They'd want money if you gave your old car to charity.
> Nobody's denying them money for any car; they still get paid for
> building it, and the first sale, and a lot of other resales.
>>
>> On Demand and direct to DVD are going to become larger segments in the 
>> next
>> few years, and under the current model writers will lose their ****rts
>> writing for those media.
>
> Nonsense.
>
> They get paid for writing the script, regardless of where it airs,
> regardless of if it airs, *now*
> They get paid for direct to DVD *now*
> We're talking extra residuals from potential later dispersal of product
> that might not even have money changing hands, and they want twice what
> they get on a DVD for that.

The analogy isn't perfect, of course. But here's the truth of it.
Royalties 
are a way of rewarding good work, work that has appeal past the creation
of 
the work.

It's pretty simple to me. The writer was a fundamental part of the
creation 
of the work. If it has appeal in other formats, it makes no sense to me
why 
the suits who did nothing creative at any point in the process should get
so 
much of the benefit and the creative people (remember, this is a big issue

in the DGA and SAG  contracts coming up next summer) should get more
money. 
The amount given on DVD, On Demand, and Net Streaming distribution is a 
faint pittance, and as the networks become more and more meaningless in
time 
and more and more of the viewer traffic comes from these three (and other 
emerging ) streams it will quickly reach a point where it's not
economically 
feasible for someone to try to make a living writing unless this is 
rectified.
 




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Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-05 15:02:04 
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William George Ferguson &  2007-11-05 14:49:06 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-06 10:52:33 
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jayembee <jayembeenosp  2007-11-07 21:41:00 
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Invid Fan <invid@[EMAI  2007-11-06 17:59:35 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-07 00:31:09 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-06 17:49:13 
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Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-07 01:07:24 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-07 21:39:01 
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Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-07 22:39:51 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-08 06:47:04 
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jayembee <jayembeenosp  2007-11-08 06:19:29 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-09 03:09:08 
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Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-10 00:10:04 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-10 10:23:57 
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Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-14 11:14:37 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-14 20:31:14 
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wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-11-14 23:04:37 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-14 21:32:46 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-15 08:17:15 
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Larc <larc-news@[EMAIL  2007-11-15 11:47:45 
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Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-14 20:23:24 
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Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-15 02:13:09 
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Cory <my_wheel_life@[E  2007-11-15 04:53:11 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-15 08:08:12 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-15 09:43:28 
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wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-11-18 23:55:19 
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Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-19 19:34:43 
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Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-15 12:40:49 
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