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Re: Strike

by Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Nov 10, 2007 at 12:10 AM

On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 00:01:45 +0100, Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:

>In article <tl79j3dm9n9802fn93dd0532ebg8kee99f@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Kerry Weaver 
><Don't bother...send to usenet> says...
>> On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 16:50:14 +0100, Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>> >> I would suggest this then: spend about four years of your life
>> >> creating a complex computer program, wait for someone to steal
>> >> it, 
>> >
>> >You can't steal a program.
>> Go to google and look up software piracy, copy protection,
>> the many years long battle against it.
>> 
>> You can steal a program.   It's been going on for years.
>
>No it hasn't. But copyright violations have been taking place for years, 
>but its not stealing.

FTR, copying a television program onto VHS is not theft of
intellectual property.  Copies can be made under the right of fair use
for the purpose of time****fting (and archiving) AS LONG AS THE COPY IS
NOT ITSELF COPIED FOR ANY REASON, much less to sell.  Under every
version of copyright, it is illegal to charge admission to any showing
of any home video copy of any TV show or movie.  You own the copy of
the movie or TV show and can buy/sell used copies of any copyrighted
work, but you do not own the right to charge admission to see it.

This one actually went to court.  The studios lost on the right to
prevent people from copying shows onto VHS for private use. 
 
>> >> Computer software is intellectual property.
>> >
>> >I know what the law says. The law is wrong.
>
>> How so?  It's the equivalant of walking into 
>> Circuit City and stealing a flat screen Tv.
>
>Not in the least, the tv is property and they have lost a sale. If 
>someone illegaly copies the immaterial software which is not property it 
>is not certain that a sale has lost - for this reason alone it should 
>neither be called stealing nor property.

If someone copies and DISTRIBUTES such copies, they are breaking
copyright law (and in the case of digital reproduction, the DCMA). You
may not think it *should* be law, but it is and your opinion is
irrelevant to the fact that intellectual copyright law exists.

  -- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.  
It never works.  I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work 
and what I could've done differently.  I'm analyzing all my shortcomings 
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan 
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent 
victim of my own stupid plans.  God, I need some coffee.
 




 120 Posts in Topic:
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-05 15:02:04 
Re: Strike
"windowwasher"   2007-11-05 21:26:43 
Re: Strike
William George Ferguson &  2007-11-05 14:49:06 
Re: Strike
"windowwasher"   2007-11-05 23:15:08 
Re: Strike
"Nicole Massey"  2007-11-05 17:55:55 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-05 17:24:44 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-05 23:44:34 
Re: Strike
Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2007-11-06 08:09:48 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-06 09:34:54 
Re: Strike
Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2007-11-06 10:41:42 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-06 12:01:48 
Re: Strike
Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2007-11-06 13:30:14 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-06 23:50:21 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-07 01:19:09 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-07 22:03:22 
Re: Strike
Hank Gillette <hankgil  2007-11-07 12:25:35 
Re: Strike
Tee Jay <terrynospamjo  2007-11-08 12:58:41 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-08 15:20:57 
Re: Strike
Natalie Teeger <Send t  2007-11-06 10:39:46 
Re: Strike
"Nicole Massey"  2007-11-06 10:57:02 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-06 10:52:33 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-06 13:56:21 
Re: Strike
"Patrick Joseph Mc N  2007-11-06 15:20:42 
Re: Strike
"Nicole Massey"  2007-11-06 14:02:44 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-06 15:29:49 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-07 00:35:02 
Re: Strike
Ian Galbraith <me@[EMA  2007-11-07 22:23:31 
Re: Strike
Hank Gillette <hankgil  2007-11-07 12:29:29 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-07 13:48:04 
Re: Strike
Hank Gillette <hankgil  2007-11-07 23:19:46 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-07 22:09:38 
Re: Strike
jayembee <jayembeenosp  2007-11-06 20:22:30 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-07 00:01:04 
Re: Strike
jayembee <jayembeenosp  2007-11-06 23:55:34 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-07 02:46:53 
Re: Strike
jayembee <jayembeenosp  2007-11-07 07:06:04 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-07 13:54:09 
Re: Strike
jayembee <jayembeenosp  2007-11-07 21:36:03 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-07 16:36:25 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-08 06:54:30 
Re: Strike
jayembee <jayembeenosp  2007-11-08 06:10:24 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-08 00:43:30 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-09 03:04:03 
Re: Strike
deering <deering24@[EM  2007-11-10 01:11:03 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-10 07:59:40 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-11 11:53:39 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-07 22:05:53 
Re: Strike
jayembee <jayembeenosp  2007-11-07 21:41:00 
Re: Strike
"Default User"   2007-11-07 17:56:41 
Re: Strike
Invid Fan <invid@[EMAI  2007-11-06 17:59:35 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-07 00:31:09 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-06 17:49:13 
Residuals Versus Royalties (Was Re: Strike)
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-07 01:07:24 
Re: Residuals Versus Royalties (Was Re: Strike)
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-07 21:39:01 
Re: Residuals Versus Royalties (Was Re: Strike)
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-07 22:39:51 
Re: Residuals Versus Royalties (Was Re: Strike)
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-08 06:47:04 
Re: Residuals Versus Royalties (Was Re: Strike)
jayembee <jayembeenosp  2007-11-08 06:19:29 
Re: Residuals Versus Royalties (Was Re: Strike)
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-09 03:09:08 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-07 03:51:45 
Re: Strike
Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2007-11-07 06:33:20 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-07 14:08:15 
Re: Strike
Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2007-11-07 15:47:28 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-07 22:39:51 
Re: Strike
Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2007-11-08 07:49:39 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-08 08:23:14 
Re: Strike
Wayne Brown <fwbrown@[  2007-11-08 15:19:43 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-09 03:06:16 
Re: Strike
Paul Bearer <Don't Bot  2007-11-09 10:13:22 
Re: Strike
Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2007-11-09 10:37:38 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-09 16:50:14 
Re: Strike
Kerry Weaver <Don't bo  2007-11-09 12:57:34 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-10 00:01:45 
Re: Strike
Kerry Weaver <Don't bo  2007-11-09 19:37:52 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-10 17:17:09 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-10 00:10:04 
Re: Strike
Kerry Weaver <Don't bo  2007-11-10 11:17:50 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-10 17:27:04 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-14 13:43:19 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-15 00:51:23 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-10 00:10:04 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-10 17:23:33 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-10 15:50:46 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-10 23:55:53 
Re: Strike
Kerry Weaver <Don't bo  2007-11-10 11:23:30 
Re: Strike
Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2007-11-10 11:51:02 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-10 10:23:57 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-07 22:06:35 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-05 23:44:34 
Re: Strike
Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2007-11-06 08:06:44 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-05 23:44:34 
Re: Strike
Cory <my_wheel_life@[E  2007-11-14 06:20:21 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-14 07:13:49 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-14 11:14:37 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-14 20:31:14 
Re: Strike
wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-11-14 23:04:37 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-14 21:32:46 
Re: Strike
wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-11-14 23:39:22 
Re: Strike
jayembee <jayembeenosp  2007-11-15 04:47:49 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-15 02:13:09 
Re: Strike
Kurt Ullman <kurtullma  2007-11-15 08:30:07 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-15 08:17:15 
Re: Strike
Cory <my_wheel_life@[E  2007-11-15 04:54:22 
Re: Strike
"Patrick Joseph Mc N  2007-11-15 09:38:50 
Re: Strike
Cory <my_wheel_life@[E  2007-11-15 10:09:00 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-15 12:40:49 
Re: Strike
Cory <my_wheel_life@[E  2007-11-15 13:03:55 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-15 08:07:42 
Re: Strike
Larc <larc-news@[EMAIL  2007-11-15 11:47:45 
Re: Strike
David Johnston <david@  2007-11-15 18:34:08 
Re: Strike
Pete B <xxxh@[EMAIL PR  2007-11-14 20:23:24 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-15 02:13:09 
Re: Strike
Cory <my_wheel_life@[E  2007-11-15 04:53:11 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-15 08:08:12 
Re: Strike
Cory <my_wheel_life@[E  2007-11-15 10:02:48 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-15 09:43:28 
Re: Strike
wdstarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-11-18 23:55:19 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-19 19:34:43 
Re: Strike
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2007-11-15 12:40:49 
Re: Strike
Jim_*_ <ohyeah@[EMAIL   2007-11-15 19:46:14 
Re: Strike
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2007-11-15 20:42:24 

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