On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:57:27 GMT, Mickey
<mickey_and_edith@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>Xena wrote:
>> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 02:10:50 -0600, Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ha, David! Neener neener neeeeeeeee nerrrrrrrrrr! I found this one
>>> before you did!
>>>
>>> FTR, I think that Hillary's become *much* more likable since (less
>>> im****tantly) the teary speech and (FAR more im****tantly) her
>>> *****-slapping-with-kindness of Chris "Tweety" Matthews just before
>>> the NH primary. I think Rory is on the wrong beat -- because, much to
>>> virulently misogynist, virulently anti-Clinton(s) Matthews, he just
>>> handed the presidency over to HRC on a silver platter. Unless Rory
>>> has realized that she's covering the Vice-Presidential candidate and
>>> is okay with that.
>> I would point out all heck is breaking loose In New Hamp****re,
>> a number of questions have been raised about the results. Seems
>> that in areas where paper ballots were used, the polls were
>> dead on correct. Also seems that in areas where electronic voting
>> machines were used they got the vote for Obama right, they got the
>> vote for Edwards right, but they were way off in figures for Hilary.
>>
>> Dennis Kucinich has paid $2,000 for a recount. But recounts
>> can't be done on a number of the electronic voting machines.
>>
>> You haven't heard the last of this.
>>
>> Finaly, look at Kenya. They had a disputed election there
>> and riots broke loose. The US has disputed elections
>> and the sheople in this country tolerate it.
>>
>> And this is the country that is trying to pass itself
>> off as the model of democracy.
>>
>
>You know, the losers always find something to blame other than
>themselves or the merits of the arguments they advance. As a result of
>Democratic Party complaints in 2000, many precincts changed to
>electronic voting machines. Now when the expectations of the left most
>leaning folk (their tin hat crowd) are not met, it must be the machines.
>Make up your fricking minds. I can think of at least one explanation for
>why the accuracy of projections for paper vs paperless precincts might
>skew. Without a mapping of precinct demographics to voting modality, I'm
>loath to post it, not that those who buy into the election fraud
>scenario would be really interested, anyway.
IMO, somebody always cries election fraud. OTOH, after my vote was
stolen in not just 2000, but also 2003 (the Governator stealing my
vote) and 2004 (Bush stealing my vote in 2000 means that my vote was
stolen in 2004 because he never should have had the bully pulpit of
the in***bent in the first place), anyone to the left of Atilla the
Hun has a right to be paranoid about voting in this country.
The simple fact of the matter is this: the undecideds, the people who
waited until the day of the election to vote, skewed to Hillary. Most
of the undecideds were in urban areas with optical scanners. The
optical scanners have paper trails that are provable, the difference
in voting patterns between the optical scanners, and the few EVMs that
are the Diebold steal-the-election-kind will probably show how
unreliable the Steal-the-Election paperless machines are while *still*
disproving the Hillary-hatahs. The Optical Scanners are essentially
Scantrons, so IMO unless the majority of voters were too stupid to
fill them out correctly (and I don't think that that was the case),
then the concerns over NH are bogus.
However, given how ****ed the last two elections have been, I
personally don't mind Kucinich paying the $2K just to start a recount
for the hell of it. He's not a factor anyway (and I say that as a
flaming liberal -- one who'd never vote for him, but still . . .), but
on the principle of double-checking, I'm fine with him doing it.
Ain't gonna change the outcome, though. The Repugs are just upset
that Chris Matthews won the election for Hillary.
-- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.
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