Re: Jezebel James Deathwatch: As Expected, RIP

On Mar 25, 6:49 pm, Rob Jensen <ShutUp...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:30:45 -0400, Bill Steele <w...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> wrote:
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> >In article <847iu3h1313e3otkhbmdl6gvo1o93nb...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > Manfred Mann <ManfredM...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> >> >OK... Fox made a mistake by scheduling it on Friday night.  Point
> >> >conceded... THAT said, Fox's even BIGGER mistake, IMNSHO, was
thinking
> >> >that they had their own version of GG on their network, which
everyone
> >> >knew TROJJ wasn't... from the first second of the show.
>
> >Everyone knew that, apparently, except the people posting here. How
> >about a thread complaining that Huckleberry Finn wasn't like Tom
Sawyer?
>
> !) There's another newsgroup where such a debate would be welcome.
>
> 2) Most people here (and elsewhere) knew that ROJJ was a trainwreck as
> early as last October, when the show's episode order was cut in half
> from 13 to 7 and the episode then-currently being filmed became its
> last.  I also read two different posts on two different websites about
> two different tapings of ROJJ (the first regular episode shot and the
> next-to-last) that both cited Parker Posey having immense difficulties
> with memorizing the lines and both intimated that other regular actors
> on the show were exasperated with her.
>
> That's why I've always described the show as pre-cancelled.
>
> FTR, though, I had already read ROJJ as a trainwreck waaaay last May
> when Michael Ausiello interviewed Amy Sherman-Palladino at Fox's party
> at the Upfronts where she declared that she wanted (and still wants)
> to do a 2-hour Gg movie.  THAT read to me that things already weren't
> going too well between her and Fox -- or, more charitably, that she
> wasn't satisfied with the pilot even then and already felt due to
> Fox's reactions to the pilot that no matter what they did it was
> pre-cancelled anyway and the only reason that it got on the schedule
> at all was because it was a put-pilot or play-or-play deal where Fox
> was going to have to air it no matter what.
>
> Make no mistake, most Gg fans were, in fact, expecting a trainwreck.
> It's just that
>
> 1) there's a vocal, bitter segment of Gg fans who are basically going
> to trash ASP no matter what she does now because they hold her
> waaaaay-too-personally responsible for their dissatisfations with s6
> and s7.   They're using the trainwreck of ROJJ as a transparently
> obvious excuse to complain about s6 & 7 of Gg and to again voice not
> their dislike of ROJJ or how it didn't work, but how much they hate
> ASP.
>
> (FTR, I blame Dawn Ostroff for not renewing the show for two seasons,
> thus derailing a four-year storyline at what would have been its
> halfway point and instead relying on an
> almost-ready-but-needed-another-year protege of ASP to compress the
> second two years of storyline into one season.  BID.)
>
> 2) the rest of Gg fandom, the vast majority of Gg fandom, while aware
> of the re****ts that ROJJ was a trainwreck to begin with, were
> nevertheless going into the show with an open mind and hoping that the
> critics and rumors were wrong.  Shows have been savaged in the press
> before and turned out to be winners.  But it appears to me -- (and I
> still haven't seen the show yet -- FOX's crappy track record with
> sitcoms had made me reluctant *years* ago to try any half-hour show on
> the net regardless of whose name is on the show, whether actor or
> showrunner) -- that the show failed to meet even most Gg fans' low
> expectations.

or for some of us we never saw the ads for it and so never remembered
it was even on to watch it.

of course by the sounds of it i didn't miss anything.

Penni