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Re: Joan Of Arcadia too subtle for American audiences?

by "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 10, 2005 at 11:10 AM

"Giuditta" <jmarrs@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:Bfx3e.2366$uC2.13101@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Steven Rubio <srubio@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:v8vs31hrlqdicon3epblumjqsjnf24b55l@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> There have been 41 episodes shown so far, I believe. The show is good
>> enough, but it doesn't have the depth to keep going this long, which
>> is why Season Two seems worse than Season One ... what else does this
>> show have that we haven't already seen? The subplots involving the
>> parents are less interesting than the main storylines featuring Joan
>> ... ten episodes in, it wasn't so bad, but 40 episodes in, it's hard
>> to care about that part of the show devoted to mostly uninteresting
>> cop drama that has done better elsewhere. And the attempt to create
>> interest in the adults by forcing changes in their life that are not
>> integral to their characters but are merely designed to create
>> something new in a show that is already getting stale gets irritating
>> over time. (He's a chief of police, no, he's a detective ... she's a
>> housewife, no, she's a teacher, no, she's gonna be an artist.)
>>
>> The first time Joan talks to God and acts on God's wishes, it's pretty
>> interesting. The tenth time, the growth in the character and her
>> ongoing relation****p to God is intriguing. Her crisis of faith at the
>> end of Season One was touching. But at this point, what do we have?
>> The same thing we've seen 41 times before: God asks Joan to do
>> something, she does it grudgingly, it turns out different than she
>> expected, repeat next week. Meanwhile, the rest of the show just isn't
>> very special: standard high-school drama combined rather clunkily with
>> standard cop drama and standard home-life drama.
>>
>> It's not about the treatment of God, subtle or not ... it's about a
>> show that passed its usefulness some time ago but is still on anyway.
>> Me, I'm still watching out of habit, but if it gets a third season, I
>> don't know that I'll return.
>>
>> Steven
>
> I think you're right on target here...I feel there are too many subplots
> with the parents. I will be into what Joan is doing then there's a
switch 
> to
> some murder being solved...Helen getting back into church kind of fits
but 
> I
> say drop the other events in art class...I think the focus should be on 
> Joan
> and how her friends handle teenage life with her sort of their leader 
> based
> on what she has learned from God and her experiences...I never
understood
> from the first show why they added all the other...it's like they can't 
> make
> their minds up on what the show's even about. You just can't crowd that 
> much
> into an hour without turning out some weak plot points and not enough
> background to have a satisfying resolution...we aren't given time to
care
> about the meat of the story...Joan and her life experiences and whether 
> they
> help her grow as a person...
>
> Peace,
> Giuditta
>
>

Sniff, sniff. I smell committee writing or network "notes". To appeal to
the 
broadest demographic, add various elements. I liked the first season where

it alternated Joan, her friends, her family, and the cops.

I think if they alternated Joan with 2 other plots would be better.

Or had JOAN, PLOT 2, PLOT 3, subplot 4, subplot 5, one week, then JOAN, 
subplot 2, subplot 3, PLOT 4, PLOT 5, the next week, then JOAN, PLOT 2, 
subplot 3, PLOT 4, subplot 5, the following week, etc.

You have a handful of plots but the FOCUS is mainly on a 3 plots and a 
*little* advancement of the remaining plots.

-- Ken from Chicago
 




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Joan Of Arcadia too subtle for American audiences?
Steven O. <null@[EMAIL  2005-03-21 03:48:29 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2005-03-20 22:02:18 
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David <dimlan17@[EMAIL  2005-03-20 22:59:22 
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Paul Duca <p.duca@[EMA  2005-03-20 23:12:59 
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"Giuditta" <  2005-04-02 07:04:51 
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drewdr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2005-04-02 17:14:26 
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Richard DeLuca <odysse  2005-04-27 15:46:09 
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"ShadowKatt" &l  2005-04-27 17:39:42 
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rgorman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-03-21 04:38:33 
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Tim May <timcmay@[EMAI  2005-03-20 23:59:14 
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Steven O. <null@[EMAIL  2005-03-21 15:31:35 
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Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@  2005-03-22 00:30:19 
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"D.E." <ask4  2005-03-25 11:30:22 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2005-03-21 06:22:20 
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"Eva" <eva1r  2005-03-22 00:37:40 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2005-03-21 20:11:38 
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"Ian J. Ball" &  2005-03-22 02:35:26 
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Anybody <anybody@[EMAI  2005-03-22 18:09:49 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2005-03-22 05:56:56 
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"Eva" <eva1r  2005-03-22 13:55:19 
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"pb..." <woo  2005-03-22 14:33:36 
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rgorman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-03-22 23:08:47 
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"pb..." <woo  2005-03-22 16:48:57 
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rgorman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-03-23 02:17:05 
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"pb..." <woo  2005-03-22 21:01:23 
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"Giuditta" <  2005-04-02 07:19:45 
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"D.E." <ask4  2005-03-25 11:33:55 
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Steven Rubio <srubio@[  2005-03-21 00:00:59 
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Tim May <timcmay@[EMAI  2005-03-21 00:39:05 
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RogerM <rodger.mckay@[  2005-03-21 11:55:28 
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"Giuditta" <  2005-04-02 07:27:37 
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"Ken from Chicago&qu  2005-04-10 11:10:06 
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testingtesting24@[EMAIL P  2005-03-21 03:59:53 
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Velvet Elvis <NOgambol  2005-03-21 18:57:45 
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IAPW <lkfan@[EMAIL PRO  2005-03-21 20:04:59 
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"JaneL0bstr" &l  2005-03-21 15:10:52 
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"Michael Alden"  2005-03-21 23:49:38 
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Tim May <timcmay@[EMAI  2005-03-22 00:37:55 
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"Fr. Robert Dye"  2005-03-23 15:12:42 
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Tim May <timcmay@[EMAI  2005-03-22 00:45:02 
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"Buckaroo Banzai&quo  2005-03-24 03:51:48 
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"Buckaroo Banzai&quo  2005-03-24 04:32:15 
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rgorman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-03-24 06:48:55 
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"Buckaroo Banzai&quo  2005-03-24 13:39:15 
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rgorman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-03-24 16:32:19 
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"Buckaroo Banzai&quo  2005-03-24 16:36:44 
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"D.E." <ask4  2005-03-25 11:55:48 
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Bill <ws21@[EMAIL PROT  2005-03-24 17:59:50 
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"D.E." <ask4  2005-03-25 11:52:27 
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"theTruth" <  2005-03-24 13:03:32 
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"John Richards"  2005-03-24 16:36:10 
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"Buckaroo Banzai&quo  2005-03-24 17:09:39 
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"D.E." <ask4  2005-03-25 12:00:44 
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"Giuditta" <  2005-04-02 07:40:21 
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"Anthony Cerrato&quo  2005-04-02 13:01:46 
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"Giuditta" <  2005-04-02 19:16:18 
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"D.E." <ask4  2005-03-25 11:59:11 
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"D.E." <ask4  2005-03-25 11:49:22 
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"Michael Alden"  2005-03-23 22:39:52 
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"D.E." <ask4  2005-03-25 11:42:24 
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"Michael Alden"  2005-04-13 01:13:19 

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