Re: 2nd Season Joan of Arcadia - Common Thread - 5 star poll - SPOILERS AHOY !

On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 08:01:22 -0400, kstahl <ktsahl@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>KenM47 wrote:
>>>Take a look at the first chapter of Job in the so-called bible.
>> 
>> 
>> Sorry. Don't have one handy. Any chance you can explain?
>> 
>
>The first chapter talks about the "sons of god" getting together and 
>mentions that Satan was there as well and god has a conversation with 
>Satan and places a bet with him. The point is, there is no mention of 
>being Satan being an angel.
>
>The primary source for the explanation that the devil is a fallen angel 
>is John Milton's "Paradise Lost" - which, strictly speaking, is not 
>canonical.

Nonsense!  Milton was drawing upon a common if not universally
accepted theological idea that predates Christianity.  
 




The later Jewish tradition, with which the early church fathers were
familiar, elaborates on the fall of the angels under the leader****p of
Samhazai ("the heaven-seizer") and Azael (Enoch, book vi.6f). Another
legend in the Quick Facts about: midrash
Quick Summary not found for this subjectmidrash represents the
repentent Samhazai suspended star-like between heaven and earth
instead of being hurled down to Sheol. The Helel-Lucifer myth was
transferred to Satan in the 1st century BC, as may be learned from
Vita Adæ et Evæ (12), where the Adversary gives Adam an account of his
early career, and the Slavonic Quick Facts about: Book of Enoch
Quick Summary not found for this subjectBook of Enoch (xxix. 4, xxxi.
4), where Satan-Sataniel (Samael?) is also described as a former
archangel. Because he contrived "to make his throne higher than the
clouds over the earth and resemble 'My power' on high", Satan-Sataniel
was hurled down, with his hosts of angels, and since then he has been
flying in the air continually above the abyss.