"Steven O." <null@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 07:40:51 GMT, "ottomatic" <nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
> >sorry steveo, the prob with JoA was not that they did too many shows,
> >but that Barb, lost her way somewhere around mid-S1 and only rarely got
> >back on track
>
> See, but that's yet another reason some shows should be done as movies
> or novels, and not as TV at all.
not much good at seeing other peoples points are we, steveo?
Otto
I'm not saying that you absolutely,
> positively could not do JOA as a weekly series for five years, and
> keep the quality high for most episodes. But by it's nature, it is a
> show that defied formula -- you really have to be thinking pretty
> deeply every time you are sitting at the word processor if you want to
> get this show right -- and that's asking a lot of merely mortal
> writers. Even Shakespeare only wrote about two dozen plays in the
> course of a lifetime.
>
> So, apart from having a better chance of keeping the marketing guys
> from mucking with the concept, the other reason to do this as a movie,
> or novel, is that there is much, much more time to carefully think
> about where you want to go with the stories and the characters. I
> think that having the time to reflect, the freedom from weekly
> production pressures, can only work in favor of a complex, innovative
> concept like JOA.
>
> Granted, that did not keep George Lucas from totally, miserably
> f***ing up his Star Wars prequels, but I sense that Barbara Hall has
> more depth than George Lucas. (My cat has more depth than George
> Lucas.) Given the time to carefully plan the story and character
> arcs, Hall could have made a masterpiece of four to six Joan Of
> Arcadia movies or novels, methinks.
>
> Still haven't seen too many other replies here about other shows that
> would have been better as movies/novels. No one else has thoughts on
> this!?
>
> Steve O.
>
> >
> >"Steven O." <null@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >news:2ei0k19sg2sv6leh799v9s0on2d3qshkem@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 14:36:52 GMT, "ottomatic" <spamout@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >> >3) The "Touched By an Angel" Message Show vibe skews older and
> >> >allegedly religious -- although, IMO, the show's more liberal,
> >> >tolerant-skewing message actuallly *alienated* the closeminded,
> >> >literalist evangelicals who were the target audience for "TBAA." So
> >> >[JOA]'s premise turned off liberals before they watched the show
> >> >due to the quasi-religious premise and it turned off fundamentalists
> >> >after *they* saw the show and what was left was those of us who just
> >> >didn't give a **** either way, tried the show just for the hell of
it
> >> >(pun not intended, but appreciated) and stuck around as the show
> >> >quickly proved itself to confound every pre-existing notion about
it.
> >>
> >> In other words, Joan Of Arcadia was for people who could actually
> >> *think* -- whether or not you have liberal or conservative
> >> predispositions to begin with, as long as you have an open mind to
> >> novel ideas about God and the meaning of life. But people who wanted
> >> a pat, standard-issue message (Touched By An Angel for
> >> fundamentalists, West Wing for liberals) would have a hard time
> >> getting past JOA's Zen-like elusiveness and playfulness.
> >>
> >> In hindsight, this would have been much better as a series of three
or
> >> four moderate budget movies, or possibly even a series of novels,
> >> where the sole author could have done whatever he or she wanted, with
> >> total creative control (especially in a novel or series of novels),
> >> without the executives constantly trying to steer the show for higher
> >> ratings.
> >>
> >> Anyone else care to suggest other shows that should have been done as
> >> movies or novels, for the sake of total creative integrity and
> >> creative control by the creator? One that comes to my mind was a
very
> >> short-lived but brilliant UPN show, Nowhere Man. One could make the
> >> case that the entire Star Trek phenomena might have been better as
> >> series of novels -- real novels, with a sole author, not the canned
> >> crap that's been churned out over the years. Others?
> >>
> >> Steve O.
> >
> >sorry steveo, the prob with JoA was not that they did too many shows,
> >but that Barb, lost her way somewhere around mid-S1 and only rarely got
> >back on track
> >the first 6 or so epps..., recall the wit and 'tude of the pilot:
> >"So, you're God, as in God...", and the Jean D'Arc test, re-test...
> >
> >how did that all get mired in the blandfest that followed?
> > with the exception of half-a-dozen or so up-to-standard epps scattered
> >throught the remainder of the 2 season run, JoA became a sad song of
what
> >might have been.
> >
> >Otto
> >
> >
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