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>> >> > In article <hhkOg.59616$OI1.5409@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> > (L.
>> >> > Ross Raszewski) wrote:
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>> >> All 4 seasons are out on DVD, and even if they do make a new Knight
>> >> Rider
>> >> movie, and even if it sucks, the new movie won't erase the DVD's
from
>> >> history. They will still all be there, for you and everyone else to
>> >> watch.
>> >> Does Hollywood care about money, and only money? Yep, it sure does.
>> >> Does Hollywood making a new Knight Rider movie mean the original
show
>> >> is
>> >> going to be harmed? I can't see how it would be.
>> >> The point is, no one knows if it will be any good or not. You can't
>> >> judge
>> >> something that hasn't even been made yet.
>> >
>> > True, but you can have stomach-turning expectations based on all the
>> > other unrecognisable garbage coming out of Hollyweird that uses the
>> > same name as an old show. Their track record is attrocious, so a
"new"
>> > Knight Rider isn't somthing to look forward to, but rather dreaded.
>> > :-(
>>
>> The track record depends on who you ask. I for one enjoyed the new
"Dukes
>> of
>> Hazzard" movie. It wasn't anything like the original show, but I still
>> enjoyed watching it.
>
> Whether anyone liked it or not isn't relevant. The point is that it
> wasn't the original, so why use the same name?? It's pointless using
> the old name for a show / movie that isn't really the same thing.
It has been happening for *many* years. Look at the automobile industry,
for
example. Every few years (usually 6 or so) all the big ones (GM, Ford,
ect)
totally re-design there cars. KITT for example, was a 3rd generation Trans
Am, meaning there were 2 more generations before him that look totally
different. Does that cause confusion? Nope. It's the way the world works.
Most people are used to it by now.
>> > A "new" Knight Rider doesn't "harm" the original in the sense that it
>> > does still exist, but it does cause confusion and split the fan-base.
>>
>> I don't see how it splits the fan base. Some will like both shows, some
>> will
>> like one or the other. Look at Star Trek. There are 6 series'. Some
fans
>> love all of them, some fans hate some, and like some. I don't think it
>> splits anyone up. Everyone has there own opinion.
>
> OK, so someone comes along posting messges about "Knight Rider" - which
> one are they on about, the original or the new unrecognisable one with
> lots of silly changes??? You've got confusion already.
Again, I don't see how you would get confusion. For starters, if they
started talking about KITT being 2006 Camero (or whatever he will be),
that
would limit it down right there. All you have to do is glance at the post,
and if you are interested in the show to be reading it's group, you should
be able to tell which show/movie is being talked about.
> If they're
> making such a different show, they should give it a different name and
> it save PILES of problems as well as not antogonising the original
> fans.
I don't think it antagonizes many fans. I myself am one of the biggest KR
fans that I know. I have every episode on DVD, I have had KITT models,
toys,
****rts, and anything else you can think of. Will I be pissed if they bring
out a new KR movie? Of course not. Even if it sucks like a black hole, it
still doesn't take away my enjoyment of the original. The same way as I
can
watch the 2005 "Dukes of Hazzard" movie (which, like I said before, was
good, but it wasn't like the original), and follow that by watching the TV
series.
>> > It makes no sense at all to use the same name on a new show that's SO
>> > different - people expecting to se the original (or something
remotely
>> > recognisable) end up disappointed,
>>
>> If it has KITT and Michael Knight in it, then the show is Knight Rider.
>> Perhaps a "2006 version", but it's still Knight Rider. Changing the
name
>> won't do anything. It's still the same as I said before. If it's not
>> liked
>> by audiences, then it won't make any money, and will be forgotten, and
>> won't
>> harm the original KR at all.
>
> It's not the same. You've made changes, therefore it's different. If
> it's different you use a different name.
I mean no offence. I just honestly don't see how it makes such a big
difference. Hell, in the case of Knight Rider and Battlestar Galactica,
the
CREATOR of the show's is in on the new projects. If he doesn't mind, why
should anyone else?
> If Coca-Cola suddenly changed what's in the same bottles to orange
> juice, they'd get complaints galore from fans of the proper
> "Coca-Cola".
You are talking about a *very* drastic change. Soda pop and orange juice
or
two totally different things. Coca-Cola has however (if memory serves)
changed the recipe for Coke at least once in the past, and no one *****ed.
>> Look at "Team Knight Rider". It didn't even
>> last one season, but it sure didn't hurt the original series. They even
>> threw Michael Knight and KITT in there, and it still didn't harm the
>> original. Movies and TV series' have been re-made since TV began. It's
>> part
>> of TV and movies.
>
> Exactly the point - they made lots of ridiculous changes and created
> rubbish ...
You forgot to add "In my opinion".
> but at least they had the decency to use a different name,
> as happen with the awful Galactica 1980.
They throw the word "Team" in there and you are happy?
>> > and people who didn't like the
>> > original are unlikely (or at least less likely) to watch the new
>> > version because of the name.
>>
>> I doubt this at all. "The Dukes Movie", "Star Trek: TNG" and
"Battlestar
>> Galactica" all did quite well. The "Charlie's Angels" movies did quite
>> well
>> too.
>
> Again, opinions and popularity of any new version isn't the point. The
> point is that the new version is exactly that, a NEW version. Give it a
> new name and it would be just as popular or a "good show" in those
> people's opinions. But by re-using the old name for a different product
> they're simply causing themselves problems that are so eailsy avoided
> by a tiny glimpse of common sense.
All my point is, is that you are the only one I have ever seen who this
has
caused a problem for. Everyone else either likes the new show, or doesn't.
Matter solved. They don't complain about things as the name. I honestly
don't get it. If you wrote the original show, and were proud of it, and
the
new show was basically spitting in your face, then yes, I might be able to
understand that. However, like I said above, Glen Larson is involved with
the new BSG. That should tell you something right there.
>> > Simply changing the car used for KITT of course is not what I mean by
a
>> > "new" Knight Rider show, but it is the first step in the wrong
>> > direction of making silly changes for the sake of "updating" a show
to
>> > current ideas. The show is a product of its time. If they want to
make
>> > a "new" show, then they should make a NEW show with a different name
to
>> > match the different ideas they're using.
>>
>> I guess I just don't get your problem with using the same name. For
>> arguer's
>> sake, I will say that you are entitled to your own opinion. However,
>> should
>> the new KR movie come out and be totally un-like the original KR, and
>> bomb
>> big time, I will still have my original KR DVD's, and I can still watch
>> them
>> with pride.
>
> OK, so let's all go around calling anything we want by any name we
> want, - it doesn't matter we still know what we talking about don't we
> "20 Knight"? ;-)
Once again, you take something to the farthest extreme. Like I said
before,
you have the right to believe what you want, just like everyone else. I
just
don't see how getting mad about the name of a TV show is going to do you
any
good.
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