"bf" <bfordyce@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> BC wrote:
>> Lionel told Lex that he had to get the stone from Lana or he (Lionel)
>> would
>> deliver up Genevieve's body with Lana's DNA to the police. Lex was
>> desperate to get the stone to protect Lana. I don't see it as a
selfish
>> move. He roughed up Chloe for the same reason--to protect Lana and
then
>> is
>> repayed by Chloe by her ba****ng him into the cave wall. At no time
that
>> I
>> remember did Lex exhibit hostilities toward Clark. He knew she had it
>> because he knew it was the murder weapon--so she must have shown him.
He
>> wanted to put it into the safe but she had given it to Clark. The
>> im****tant
>> thing though is how did Lionel know she had it?
>> BC
>
> Thanks for refre****ng my memory about that. I had totally forgotten
> Lex's motive.
> Although it would've been nice for Lex to just tell Lana that Lionel
> was going to turn her in if she didn't give up the stone. Or have
> Lionel blackmail Lana directly.
No need for Lex to frighten her any more. She was in a bad state anyway.
> Although, all this happened supposedly after Clark's spirit made Lionel
> "good".
> That was another weak part of the end of season 4. They go through all
> this trouble to make Lionel reformed, and then they can't resist making
> him evil again for a few episode.
For all its weakness, the season 4 writing looks like it should have the
Nobel Prize for literature compared to season 5. Season 4 had a season
long
arc--stones, ancient kryptonian artifacts and history, Kal-el, Lois in
Crusade and ended with the uniting of the stones and creation of the
Fortress where Jor-el hopes Clark will become Kal-el. There of course
were
some side plots like Lionel's trial and prison and his revenge, Clark's
football adventures and of course the alluring Alicia. I didn't mind
these
side trips that developed Clark's character.
Season 5 had the invasion of Kryptonians--dispersed immediately--and
Brainiac, that was a mystery at first and then a threat for a few
episodes--then Jonathan's senate and his death--Lionel pining for Martha
and
wanting to mentor Clark--Lexmas of what can come--Cyborg and Vampires that
related to nothing--Lionel and Martha in a trap to get them close
together--Terminator metal guy--Angel--Aquaman and Zod. For Pete's sake
what a hodgepodge. If anything it was just a homage to other superheroes
and villains with no fracking connection to anything. Brainiac is the
threat in the beginning of the season and we end with Zod in Lex on a
rampage. And speaking of one character inside another we had Jor-el in
Lionel, Brainiac in Jonathan and a dead girl in Chloe. (Previous season
we
had Dawn stiles in several people and witches in three girls, Clark in
Lionel and Lionel in Clark) Clark is still running around in Flannel,
Chloe
pines for Clark, Lana pines for Clark, Lois is gone and so they made no
headway with the 22 episodes except for killing off one of the best actors
on the show. Not only that, the writing was seriously twisted to make all
these things work--time travel--dreams--psychotic episodes--computer
infections. Needless to say I think 5 was a pile of Kryptonite road
apples.
BC
> If Lionel really wanted the stones as bad as he did at the end of the
> season, why did he give Jason, Clark, and Lana all the help in finding
> the stones? Didn't he even fly Clark and Lana to China? And didn't he
> say something like either Lana or Clark were the chosen ones to Lex?
> Makes no sense that he'd do a 180 at the end.
>
>
Yes, and Lionel at that point said that the stones "belonged to Lana" and
not to Lex. That's why he had Lana go to China--knowing she had some kind
of power and connection to the stones. Lionel had yet to be downloaded
with
the Kryptonian programming. Lionel's cleaning up of Lana's apartment
after
the murder of Genevieve meant that he had his men shadowing Lana or
Genevieve or both.
It may not have been evil--just his way to manipulate Lex into having Lex
give him the stones. Would he have given them to Lana? We don't know.
After his download he would have certainly given them to Clark. Lionel
poisoned Genevieve to get the transference stone back and then Lionel and
Lex were kidnapped by the Teagues to retrieve it. However Lionel was
willing to die to keep it--and denied having the stone even to Lex.
>
>
>>
>> You could look at this two ways. Lex was just being nice and caring to
>> Lana
>> and as she grew up he began liking her as a love interest. Or Lex knew
>> all
>> along that the way to find out about Clark was to get close to Lana.
>> "Keep
>> your friends close and your enemies closer" he once said.
>> Bc
>
> Except Lex knew from Lana's constant complaining that Clark was feeding
> her "lies, lies, lies". I would've rather had seen Lex ****trayed as a
> false friend who pretended to give Clark and Lana good advice about
> their relation****p, but was actually helping rip them apart. I mean, if
> you want to make the guy evil or have a "dark side", he actually has to
> be a little more threatening than Frasier Crane. Instead, Lex listened
> to all the whining and tried his best to help them work it out, like a
> good friend.
All the time keeping them close. Lana's complaints of Clark's lies only
added info to the lies that Clark told Lex. How many times in season two
or
three did Lex roll his eyes when Clark told him a lie? Many times. Lex
knows there is a secret and he is just being patient--maybe hoping at some
time Clark will come forward. He wouldn't do this with anyone else
because
Clark has saved his life several times.
BC
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