"bf" <bfordyce@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> BC wrote:
>> For all its weakness, the season 4 writing looks like it should have
the
>> Nobel Prize for literature compared to season 5. Season 4 had a season
>> long
>> arc--stones, ancient kryptonian artifacts and history, Kal-el, Lois in
>> Crusade and ended with the uniting of the stones and creation of the
>> Fortress where Jor-el hopes Clark will become Kal-el. There of course
>> were
>> some side plots like Lionel's trial and prison and his revenge, Clark's
>> football adventures and of course the alluring Alicia. I didn't mind
>> these
>> side trips that developed Clark's character.
>>
>> Season 5 had the invasion of Kryptonians--dispersed immediately--and
>> Brainiac, that was a mystery at first and then a threat for a few
>> episodes--then Jonathan's senate and his death--Lionel pining for
Martha
>> and
>> wanting to mentor Clark--Lexmas of what can come--Cyborg and Vampires
>> that
>> related to nothing--Lionel and Martha in a trap to get them close
>> together--Terminator metal guy--Angel--Aquaman and Zod. For Pete's
sake
>> what a hodgepodge. If anything it was just a homage to other
superheroes
>> and villains with no fracking connection to anything. Brainiac is the
>> threat in the beginning of the season and we end with Zod in Lex on a
>> rampage. And speaking of one character inside another we had Jor-el in
>> Lionel, Brainiac in Jonathan and a dead girl in Chloe. (Previous
season
>> we
>> had Dawn stiles in several people and witches in three girls, Clark in
>> Lionel and Lionel in Clark) Clark is still running around in Flannel,
>> Chloe
>> pines for Clark, Lana pines for Clark, Lois is gone and so they made no
>> headway with the 22 episodes except for killing off one of the best
>> actors
>> on the show. Not only that, the writing was seriously twisted to make
>> all
>> these things work--time travel--dreams--psychotic episodes--computer
>> infections. Needless to say I think 5 was a pile of Kryptonite road
>> apples.
>> BC
>>
>
> Fair evaluation. I think the main weakness of season 5 was letting the
> Fine story drop and adding all those filler episodes until the Finale.
> That caused it to lose a lot of momentum (considerable time had
> elapsed). Both Season 4 and 5 started off interesting.
> Season 4 lost a lot of momentum (IMO) when it became apparent that
> Isabelle was a nonfactor in the story, and we were subjected to
> watching lame conversations with Dr Quinn and Lex weekly. Also, the way
> Clark had Kal-El removed was unbelievably cheesy. (I expect something
> just as cheesey to resolve all last season's cliffhangers).
>
> Season 4 had it's share of bad fillers as well. Weren't we treated to
> fast growing boy and some other duds? I forget if Lucy was season 3 or
> 4 (as well as some other episodes, as they were truly forgettable).
Yep--dogs and Lucy really didn't do anything for the arc. Dr. Quinn and
Jason though were a good part of the stones arc and I think going back
over
some of the DVD's will reveal that they may have had a hand in more of the
hijinks than expected. Lionel may not have done some of the things that
was
implied.
>
> Both the stone story and the Fine story were very interesting at first,
> but then seemed to drag out too long, because they wanted to milk them
> for the finale.
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>> Yes, and Lionel at that point said that the stones "belonged to Lana"
and
>> not to Lex. That's why he had Lana go to China--knowing she had some
>> kind
>> of power and connection to the stones. Lionel had yet to be downloaded
>> with
>> the Kryptonian programming. Lionel's cleaning up of Lana's apartment
>> after
>> the murder of Genevieve meant that he had his men shadowing Lana or
>> Genevieve or both.
>
> Ok, how did anyone other than Jason know that Lana had the stone? Was
> Lionel there when Lana stabbed Dr. Quinn with it? I don't remember. In
> any event, it just seemed odd that Lionel would use some teenagers to
> do his treasure hunting in China. Why not just let Lex find it and get
> it from him? Or partner with Lex? I guess it bothers me that his
> personality changed back to evil for a couple episodes at the end,
> after they spent all that time proving that Clark's spirit healed him
> or whatever.
Jason no doubt told his mother and that is why she came looking for it but
she thought that it was Lionel's stone and not the air stone. It was
obvious that Lionel was keeping track of all the parties including Clark.
Sending Lana would almost certainly include Clark going along and he may
have been Lionel's real target. To get the stones to him and keep them
out
of the hands of Lex and Genevieve.
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>> It may not have been evil--just his way to manipulate Lex into having
Lex
>> give him the stones. Would he have given them to Lana? We don't know.
>> After his download he would have certainly given them to Clark. Lionel
>> poisoned Genevieve to get the transference stone back and then Lionel
and
>> Lex were kidnapped by the Teagues to retrieve it. However Lionel was
>> willing to die to keep it--and denied having the stone even to Lex.
>
> Didn't he also poison Dr Quinn to stop her from threatening Lex? I
> thought that was part of the conversation as well, but maybe I'm
> remembering wrong.
He poisoned her to get the transference stone back--she and Jason had
killed
Bridgette Crosby for it and tried to implicate Lex by putting the body on
his property.
>
>
>> All the time keeping them close. Lana's complaints of Clark's lies
only
>> added info to the lies that Clark told Lex. How many times in season
two
>> or
>> three did Lex roll his eyes when Clark told him a lie? Many times.
Lex
>> knows there is a secret and he is just being patient--maybe hoping at
>> some
>> time Clark will come forward. He wouldn't do this with anyone else
>> because
>> Clark has saved his life several times.
>> BC
>>
>
> I just wonder why Lex still cares about the secret at this point. He's
> seen Clark display superstrength many times, and then gets dumbed down.
> He ignores other blatant evidence. It really hurts the credibility of
> the show when he blows off Blantant evidence of Clark's secret when
> he's supposedly obsessed with it. That's why I think they should've
> dropped that storyline a long time ago. Just have Lex (and Lana) in
> season 3 figure out that Clark is a meteror freak with superstrength
> and speed, and leave it at that. Something like that is not uncommon in
> Smallville.
>
I think from the way Lex rolls his eyes at some of the things that Clark
says that he knows that something is there and by now he should know he's
Kryptonian.
They sure didn't go anywhere with that native american--knife--Segeeth vs.
Naman storyline did they. Why wasn't a Zod painting on the wall in the
cave?
BC
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