The following will explain any questions you may have regarding
how Lost ends up. Don't read it if you want to be surprised
by future episodes:
So far, the plot of Lost is turning out just like I posted here
back in May last year. They're looking for Ben in order to stop
him from killing all the rich corrupt multi-nationals who are
looking to exploit and harvest the island's mystical healing
properties and Sayid joins up with Ben in his cause as an assassin
to wipe them out. Naomi's father is a leader in this cabal,
one of the guys that Naomi used to answer to before she croaked
(the other 4 newcomers to the island are just hired guns on a need
to know basis), and that explains the photo of "Brotha" Desmond
she was carrying, as a way in to gain their trust.
And the island is shown to be in a sort of phantom zone
outside of the normal space-time continuum, as shown when Daniel's
rocket arrives way too late in the last episode and his warnings
to the chopper pilot in regards to how the flight trajectory should
be exactly back the way they came in since that's the only "wormhole"
into this ****fting island. In the future (flashforwards), Not only
will Sayid join up with Ben and Locke in their cause of defending
the island from the invaders, but Jack will also want to go back
as well to join them ("We have to go back, Kate!"), although Kate
can't since she was granted a pardon and immunity by the powers
that be (the rich corrupt multi-nationals on Sayid/Ben's future list
for assassination) in order to shut up about what happened and the
faction left behind.
Any other questions?
It's a combination of the movie Star Trek: Insurrection and
the TV show 4400, in a "Survivor" island environment.
The writers' strike will stretch things out even longer so you
may as well know now.
If you have any other questions regarding Lost's general plotline and
how it'll progress, refer to what I posted back in May 2007 after
the season 3 finale:
On Mon, 28 May 2007 22:38:51 -0400, anonymous <anon@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>Jack: How do you know all this information?
Because I know the spoilers. I've cut and pasted below
the relevant parts of previous threads that I posted
after the season 3 finale.
Be warned, these are SPOILERS FOR LOST SEASONS 4/5/6:
Lost timeline (spoilers for seasons 4, 5, & 6)
*** Spoilers *** for Lost seasons 4/5/6:
Naomi and her co-workers on the freighter are actually
contracted by a shadowy quasi-governmental multi-national
organization connected to the Dharma initiative. She's on a
need-to-know basis and thus believes the story that the rest
of the world's been told, that flight 815's remains are
deep in the ocean bottom and that there were no survivors.
The reason Ben and the the Others (comprised mainly of
Black Rock survivors and recruits such as Juliette)
killed the Dharma workers is in order to protect it from
them, whose mission was to learn how to harvest and
exploit the island's mystical resources, as they've
discovered that it has healing and life-extending properties
(akin to the planet in the movie Star Trek: Insurrection).
Claire will be one of the first Losties that are airlifted off
the island, as predicted by Desmond. However Jack and many
of the other Losties discover the ruse and go into hiding
on the island. Seasons 4 & 5 basically consists of the them
playing "Rambo", joining forces with the Others, to avoid
capture by the new Dharma-connected organization, while
being aided by Jacob and using the power they find in
the island's temple. At the end of season 5, having
suffered many casualties including the death of Hurley,
they cut a deal which spares the lives of Jack, Kate, and
the other survivors. They get to play "heroes" as far as
the world is concerned, Kate's criminal record is expunged,
and they get to go home to great fanfare (as Mike from Las Vegas
says, Jack was a hero twice over, and as Jack says in the
final moments of the Season 3 finale, he's sick of lying about
what really happened). The Dharma-connected organization
isn't too concerned about letting them go with the secret,
because they know that even if the Losties/Others tell the
world the truth about the island, they won't be able to
prove it because it's next to impossible to locate the island
without that homing beacon which was previously destroyed.
That's because the island exists in a sort of pocket dimension,
a tear in the space-time continuum, and can't be found with
conventional methods like GPS, etc. It's well hidden,
and the Losties only chanced upon it initially when Desmond
failed to punch in the code on time and the result was
an explosion which tore the invisible veil that was cloaking
the island momentarily.
Anyway, the flash-forward as seen in the Season 3 finale is
actually at the point of the end of Season 5.
Jack goes back but is haunted by the casualties and the
fact that they joined hands with a sinister and evil
organization without avenging his friends' deaths.
He wants to redeem himself by finding the island and
showing the world what's really going on.
In season 6, Jack does manage to find the island helped in
part by Penny's financial resources, as he convinces her
that Desmond is still one of the holdouts alive on the
island. There he discovers a shocking conspiracy, that
at this point the Dharma-connected organization has given
up trying to harness the island's life-extending properties
as all attempts to harvest it off the island (the island's
water, air, etc) have failed. They instead have a new
strategy of relocating the world's richest and most
connected individuals and their families, and moving them
to the island in order to enjoy its life-extending properties
(this is akin to the plot as revealed in season 3 of "the 4400"
TV show, in which the Billy Campbell character realized that
the 4400 must do battle with a cabal of the world's richest people
who are secretly storing up the world's resources for themselves,
which are dimini****ng and will run out in time, setting up a
"walled city" from which they live in isolated and protected comfort).
Here they will bask in paradise, their life extended indefinitely,
while the rest of the world can go to hell, plauged by
disease, poverty, and war. Even Penny's father is in on it.
When Jack and Penny discover this, they are called upon
to make the ultimate sacrifice as they must destroy
the ****tal which connects the island to the rest of the world,
sealing it off with the help of Jacob and the island,
before the rich corrupt people can eventually move in and
condemn the rest of the world to hell on earth.
....
<northernsurfer...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>On May 25, 6:54 pm, j...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Jack King-Hoff) wrote:
>> Lost timeline (spoilers for seasons 4, 5, & 6)
>> *** Spoilers *** for Lost seasons 4/5/6:
>I do believe that Dharma is
>still out there and I never bought the act that Dharma was all peace
>and good intentions. They were ****ing over who ever was in the Swan
>and Pearl station with those films.
Here's another little tidbit that fits. Recall that in Jan 2004
Lloyd Braun at ABC conceived of Lost as a cross between "Cast Away"
and "Survivor". He then brought aboard JJ Abrams to write the
pilot script. Now JJ Abrams is a huge fan of Star Trek and is
directing the next Star Trek movie. He probably got the idea for
Lost being set on an island which is the mythical fountain of youth
from Star Trek: Insurrection, in which Picard and the Enterprise crew
fight against an evil alien government that tries to exploit the
planet's resources which maintains eternal youth for its inhabitants.
That's the exact same premise which will become clear, if it hasn't
been already, in the final 3 seasons of Lost. It's just been a
long time getting there with a drawn-out exposition (first 3 seasons),
because the producers know that once that part becomes crystal clear,
the air of mystery surrounding the show will dissipate and it'll
become more of a conventional adventure drama. That's why they
announced the structure of the show (3 years, 16 episodes each)
toward the end of this season, to keep viewers tuned in despite
losing its mysteries, because they will keep tuning in regardless
if they know a definite and planned end is in sight, if only to
know what happens to their favorite characters. Some "game-changer".
>One thing that I see a problem with is that Dharma should already know
>where the ****ing island is. If Naomi could find it by hanging out
>long enough so can Dharma.
Dharma's been trying to find it ever since they were killed and
booted off. Naomi chanced upon it purely by luck while looking
in the most likely areas for its location. It's like driving
around a city looking for someone you can recognize by sight
but not exactly sure where they'd be or if they'd even be visible
from the street. That's how hard it'd be to find the island,
although if you look long and hard enough, chances are you'd find it
eventually.
....
<northernsurfer...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>I personally don't mind what anyone saying what will
>happen cause 3 years from now is a long time and if what you are
>saying is true the writers of the show have plenty of time to change
>things. Plus they keep drawing things out longer then they should and
>invent in stories.
They can certainly change details, but they can't change the
main plot which as they said was already mapped out from the beginning
3 years ago. Despite it seeming like they were making it up
as they went along, they were telling the truth about having it all
planned out.
Now the genius of the show is that they were able to create
this buzz, an aura of mystery around that plot, the plot itself
being relatively mundane.
....
The one question that Ben or Locke should've asked
Jack to prevent him from answering the sat-phone:
"Why is it that people in the outside world think that
flight 815 crashed into the bottom of the ocean
with no survivors?" (according to Naomi).
If he really thought about it, he would've realized that the
powers that be don't want the world to know that flight 815
had survivors. Which means no matter how much he and the
other losties want to get off the island, he would've
realized that he's sealing his own doom by doing so.
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