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Re: How long till Widmore is a Good guy?

by john@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mar 23, 2008 at 08:45 AM

On Mar 23, 11:25 am, remysun2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> On Mar 23, 10:18 am, "Gr=FCe" <a...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > > Desmond was never a foe-- he was nice to Jack and Charlie.
> > There was a point where he was going to blow Locke's damned head off,
ha=
d
> > taken Kate hostage, and was making threats toward Jack. This went on
for=

> > like, the  first 3 episodes of Season 2. During that time, yeah, I
think=
 he
> > could be thought of as a foe.
>
> Uh, excuse me, but if someone dynamited their way into your home,
> would you be offering them tea and crumpets? At the end of the day,
> that was less than 108 minutes of island time.

But island time has little to do with our perspective as viewers, nor
with the writers' as storytellers. For those first three episodes, we
went from "Oh my God, there's a guy living down in the hatch!! It's
not a flashback!! he MUST be one of those 'Others'!!" to the
confrontation, to the riddle of the sation, the button, etc.

For narrative purposes, Desmond started out as an other , and once he
was discovered, he was presumed to be an 'Other".  So the stadard flip
in good guy/ bad guy was palyed with him, though only once, unlike ,
say Locke, where it goes back & forth constantly.
>
> > > Widmore will never be a good guy. He was so mean to Desmond.
> > Maybe he knows that being mean to Desmond is the only way to motivate
hi=
m.
> > If he hadn't been mean to Des, Des wouldn't have left Penny, joined
the
> > Army, went to Oxford, or entered the boat race, which means he
wouldn't
> > have been on the island, and he wouldn't have pushed the button.
>
> Like Widmore knew about the button, wanted it pushed, didn't offer the
> MacCutcheon, or a way to win affection-- just said, "You're Scottish
> and crap."?
>
> I don't think Sayid can turn villain withoout alienating Muslims. If
> he's after Widmore, I am too.

Sayid has the capacity for villainy, as shown in the torture episodes
with Sawyer & even with Ben, where I think the writers were tweaking
American post 9/11 sensibilities.  The writers do usually redeem him
(showing that Americans set him on this path, etc.).

I'm not sure that Muslims would be upset would restrain the writers,
because he's hardly that devout about Islam, in what we've seen. He's
more of a man without a country, or a God.
 




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How long till Widmore is a Good guy?
john@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-22 17:32:32 
Re: How long till Widmore is a Good guy?
thinbluemime <thinblue  2008-03-23 00:58:09 
Re: How long till Widmore is a Good guy?
remysun2000@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-22 20:44:54 
Re: How long till Widmore is a Good guy?
"Dano" <jane  2008-03-23 00:03:22 
Re: How long till Widmore is a Good guy?
"Grüe" <a@[E  2008-03-23 14:18:50 
Re: How long till Widmore is a Good guy?
Darren Delgado <darren  2008-03-23 02:13:15 
Re: How long till Widmore is a Good guy?
remysun2000@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-23 08:25:02 
Re: How long till Widmore is a Good guy?
john@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-23 08:45:34 
Re: How long till Widmore is a Good guy?
"Ryan Robbins"   2008-03-25 10:39:37 
Re: How long till Widmore is a Good guy?
tdciago <tdciago@[EMAI  2008-03-23 09:59:11 
Re: How long till Widmore is a Good guy?
Darren Delgado <darren  2008-03-23 10:42:13 
Re: How long till Widmore is a Good guy?
solarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-27 13:08:26 
Re: How long till Widmore is a Good guy?
Gumby <gumby@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-27 17:31:37 
Re: How long till Widmore is a Good guy?
solarr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-28 07:16:05 

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